ABC News Live: Tyre Nichols’ family urges calm ahead of arrest video release

Plus, dramatic body camera footage is released showing the attack on former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband.
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Transcript for ABC News Live: Tyre Nichols’ family urges calm ahead of arrest video release
THE STORY IS , WE'LL TAKE YOU THERE. >> YOU'RE STREAMING "ABC NEWS LIVE" AFTERNOON AT MONA KOSAR ABDI TO TOP STORIES TODAY ON "ABC NEWS LIVE". MEMPHIS IS BRACING FOR THE RELEASE OF THE ARREST VIDEO AND THE DEATH OF TYRE NICHOLS. WHAT WE'RE LEARNING ABOUT THE FOOTAGE AS NICHOLS FAMILY CALLS FOR ANY PROTEST TO REMAIN PEACEFUL. AND NEW DETAILS IN THE ATTACK ON NANCY PELOSI'S HUSBAND. WHAT WE'RE LEARNING FROM THE RELEASE OF THE DRAMATIC VIDEO IN THAT CASE. PLUS, FERTILITY FRAUD. WE HEAR FROM ONE WOMAN SHARING HER STORY AMID EFFORTS TO STOP OTHERS FROM FALLING VICTIM. >> BUT WE DO BEGIN WITH NEW EMOTIONAL REMARKS FROM TYRE NICHOLS MOTHER AHEAD OF THE RELEASE OF BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE OF THE VIOLENT ARREST THAT LED TO HER SON'S DEATH. SHE SPOKE AT A NEWS CONFERENCE A SHORT TIME AGO SAYING NO MOTHER SHOULD GO THROUGH THIS, WHAT SHE IS GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW. >> TAKE A LISTEN. >> I JUST WANT TO ASK A PRAYER FOR MY FAMILY, FOR THIS WHOLE COMMUNITY. >> AND I WANT TO SAY TO THE FIVE POLICE OFFICERS THAT MURDERED MY SON, YOU ALSO DISGRACED YOUR OWN FAMILY. AND I STILL HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO GRIEVE. I'M STILL DEALING WITH THE DEATH OF MY SON. THIS IS THIS WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN. >> MY SON WAS SUPPOSED TO BE WITH ME TODAY OR MANY AGENCIES ACROSS THE NATION ARE BRACING FOR THE VIDEO'S RELEASE AND POTENTIAL PROTESTS. THE FOOTAGE IS EXPECTED TO BE VERY DISTURBING. WE'RE TOLD IT SHOWS FIVE FORMER MEMPHIS POLICE OFFICERS VICIOUSLY BEATING NICHOLS AFTER A TRAFFIC STOP. THOSE FORMER OFFICERS NOW FACE CHARGES, INCLUDING SECOND DEGREE MURDER. TO DISCUSS, ABC NEWS EM NGUYEN ABC NEWS LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR AND HOST OF LAW AND CRIME NETWORK TERRY AUSTIN BOTH JOIN ME. AND I'M GOING TO START WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE IN MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE, RIGHT NOW. WHERE DO THINGS STAND WITH THE FAMILY AS A COMMUNITY WAITS FOR THE RELEASE OF THAT BODY? CAMERA FOOTAGE THAT IS SET TO BE DISTURBING? YES, CERTAINLY, MONA. RIGHT NOW IT IS TENSE IN MEMPHIS AND IT'S ONLY GETTING MORE TENSE AS WE GET NEARER TO THE TIME IN WHICH THE RELEASE OF THAT BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE WILL COME OUT TONIGHT. CERTAINLY, AUTHORITIES ARE GEARING UP FOR EXPECTED PROTESTS. WE DID HEAR FROM THE FAMILY AS WELL AS LAWYERS TODAY IN THAT PRESS CONFERENCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THEY WERE EMOTIONAL. THEY WERE OUTRAGED. THEY WERE CALLING FOR JUSTICE. WE EVEN HEARD FROM THE ATTORNEY BEN CRUMP, WHO WAS SAYING THAT GIVING US MORE DETAILS FROM THE BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE SAYING THAT NICHOLS SAID, I JUST WANT TO GO HOME. HE CALLED OUT FOR HIS MULTIPLE TIMES, OF COURSE, HIS MOM GETTING EMOTIONAL, HEARING ABOUT THAT AS WELL. THEY ALSO CALLED ON REFORM FOR POLICE, MAKING SURE THAT THE POLICE OFFICERS INVOLVED IN A CERTAIN INCIDENT CAN ALSO STEP IN REQUIRING THAT TO HAPPEN. MOVING FORWARD THERE ALSO CALLING ON SYSTEMIC CHANGES ON THE CONGRESSIONAL LEVEL AS WELL. THEY'RE ALSO CALLING FOR THE DISBANDING OF WHAT'S CALLED THE SCORPION UNIT, WHICH THE FIVE FORMER OFFICERS PLAYED A ROLE IN DURING THIS TIME. WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S ABOUT 50 MEMBERS ON THE UNIT. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE TRYING TO DECREASE THE CRIME IN MEMPHIS, BUT CERTAINLY NOW IT SEEMS LIKE A LAWYERS FOR NICHOLAS KERR FAMILY IS SAYING THAT SHOULD BE DISBANDED BY THE . ALL RIGHT. AND EARLIER TODAY, THE MEMPHIS POLICE CHIEF WAS ON GOOD MORNING AMERICA TO DISCUSS THE RELEASE OF THE POLICE BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE. SHE SAYS THAT SHE IS HORRIFIED AND DISGUSTED. LET'S TAKE LISTEN. >> WHAT HAPPENED IN MEMPHIS IS OBVIOUSLY TRAGIC. I HAVE SEEN THE VIDEO MYSELF, AND I WILL TELL YOU I WAS APPALLED. >> AUNT. AND THAT IS ACTUALLY A QUESTION FOR RAY, THE FBI DIRECTOR . BUT TERRY, THE POLICE CHIEF SAYS THAT THE REASON FOR THE STOP IS STILL UNCLEAR. >> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF WHAT CHRISTOPHER RAY SAID? WELL, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AS THE HEAD OF THE FBI, HE IS DEFINITELY GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATED BECAUSE THAT VIDEO HE SAW, THE VIDEO IS HORRENDOUS . IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE WORST VIDEOS BASED ON THE DESCRIPTIONS THAT WE'VE HEARD SO FAR . >> SO I THINK THAT WE WILL ULTIMATELY SEE CHARGES BROUGHT ON THE FEDERAL SIDE OR EVEN MAYBE WE WILL SEE AN INVESTIGATION DONE AND PERHAPS THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS WILL BE CHARGED WITH ULTIMATELY HAVING TO CHANGE THEIR PATTERNS AND THEIR PRACTICES BECAUSE THE DOJ HAS DONE THIS BEFORE, WHEN THEY'RE HAVING A CASE OF THIS MAGNITUDE OF THIS EGREGIOUS ASSAULT ON THE CIVIL RIGHTS OF AN INDIVIDUAL, THEY LOOK INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE SAW AFTER GEORGE FLOYD. AND I THINK WE WILL PROBABLY SEE IT HERE IN MEMPHIS AS WELL . SO THE FBI IS GOING TO INVESTIGATE. WE'RE GOING TO SEE, I THINK, CHARGES BROUGHT BY ATTORNEY GENERAL MERRICK GARLAND. HE'S GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE IS SOME CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATION, THAT THERE'S A PATTERN AND PRACTICE THAT THAT IS THOROUGHLY ADDRESSED IN THIS CASE. BECAUSE HAVING FIVE OFFICERS DO THIS AGAINST ONE INDIVIDUAL, I DON'T THINK IT'S A QUESTION OF RACE HERE. I THINK IT'S A QUESTION OF THE POLICE PRACTICE AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING INTO BECAUSE IT JUST CONTINUES AFTER TIME AFTER TIME, LOOKING OUT FOR MORE CHARGES BECAUSE THESE ARE ALREADY VERY SERIOUS CHARGES THAT THEY'RE FACING. BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND BRING IN FORMER NYPD CHIEF OF DETECTIVES ROBERT BOYCE AND RETIRED CAPTAIN FOR THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY, MARYLAND POLICE DEPARTMENT, SONIA PRUITT. SHE IS THE FOUNDER OF THE BLACK POLICE EXPERIENCE. ROBERT BOYCE, I WANT TO ACTUALLY GO AHEAD AND START WITH YOU, BECAUSE, AGAIN, SOME OF THE CHARGES THAT THEY ARE FACING INCLUDE A KIDNAPPING CHARGE AND SECOND DEGREE MURDER CHARGES AS WELL. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THESE CHARGES AS THEY'RE EXTREME AND WHAT I'M HEARING ABOUT THIS VIDEO, THEY SAY, SHOULD BE SO MR. GRIFFIN. THE FBI IS TALKING ABOUT CIVIL RIGHTS INVESTIGATIONS. WE'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN IN MINNEAPOLIS, THE SAME EXACT THING WHERE THAT INDIVIDUAL ARE TODD ANT WAS HAD TO GO THROUGH POST CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY . THEY WILL PROBABLY SEE THE SAME HERE. ALL LARA SPENCER WE SEE. SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE WELL. AND I THINK I THINK PEOPLE WILL BE REPULSED BY IT. >> AND THIS WILL GO QUICKLY, AS HE HAS ALREADY. AND SONIA BEN CRUMP MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES THAT THESE OFFICERS WERE PART OF A UNIT CALLED THE SCORPION UNIT AND CALLED FOR THAT UNIT TO BE TO BE DISMANTLED. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT HE MEANS BY THE SCORPION UNIT AND WHY HE MAY FIND THIS PROBLEMATIC? >> YES. SO POLICE OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY MAY HAVE SPECIALIZED UNITS THAT THEY PUT INTO NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEY CALL THEM SATURATE UNITS SOMETIMES. >> BUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THEY TEND TO PATROL TEND TO BE THE MORE DISADVANTAGED, DISADVANTAGED NEIGHBORHOODS, BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS, LATINO NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO THERE'S SOME CONCERNS ABOUT ARE WE OVERPOLICING CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE? >> THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME THERE MAY BE SOME PROOF OF THAT. AND SO BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH MR. NICHOLS, AND SO MR. CRUMP ASKING THAT THE UNIT BE DISBANDED IS NOT SURPRISING. WE DON'T WANT OVERPOLICING OF OUR DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES. >> WE WANT PEOPLE TO GO IN WHO CAN MAKE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITIES AND BUILD A BRIDGE BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND YOU CAN'T DO THAT IF YOU THINK THAT YOU'RE GOING INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU'RE IN THE ENEMY TERRITORY AND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU CAN ARREST YOUR WAY AND BEAT YOUR WAY OUT OF WHATEVER THE CRIME ISSUES ARE THERE, THAT IS NOT APPROPRIATE . >> AND LET'S BRING TERRY BACK IN, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING A LOT ABOUT THE CRIMINAL CHARGES. BUT THE NICHOLS FAMILY ATTORNEY , BEN CRUMP, SAYS THAT A CIVIL CASE WILL BE FILED. WHAT DO YOU THINK IS AT STAKE FOR THE MEMPHIS POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THIS CASE? WELL, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE QUITE A LARGE SETTLEMENT AND THAT WILL , OF COURSE, GO TO THE FAMILY. AND WE'VE SEEN IT IN OTHER CASES WHERE WE ARE SEEING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN SETTLEMENT. BUT I THINK THE MORE IMPORTANT ISSUE HERE, MONA, IS WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND IT'S PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT BEN CRUMP OFTEN DOES WITH THESE POLICE DEPARTMENTS. THEY HAVE TO CHANGE THEIR POLICIES. THEY HAVE TO CHANGE THEIR PRACTICES. THEY HAVE TO INSTITUTE SOME SORT OF TRAINING. SO THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. AND I DEFINITELY THINK THAT BRINGING THE CIVIL ACTION, WHICH IS REALLY A CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATION OF THE RIGHTS, THE INDIVIDUAL HERE DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S NOT JUST THE MONETARY VALUE TO THE FAMILY. IT IS THE CHANGES THAT HOPEFULLY WE WILL SOON SEE STATE BY STATE DEPARTMENT, DEPARTMENT IN ALL OF THESE POLICE OFFICES. I STILL I'M SHOCKED THAT IT'S STILL HAPPENING, BUT OF COURSE, IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME. IT'S BEEN OVER THE COURSE OF HUNDREDS OF YEARS. SO I THINK ONE STEP AT A TIME, ONE DAY AT A TIME. >> AND WE ARE DEFINITELY FOLLOWING A STORY ON ALL FRONTS AHEAD OF THE RELEASE OF THAT BODY CAMERA VIDEO LATER THIS EVENING. AND BOB, TERRY AND SEONA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING. AND WE DO HAVE SOME BREAKING NEWS. AT LEAST SEVEN PEOPLE ARE DEAD AND THREE ARE INJURED FOLLOWING A SHOOTING NEAR A SYNAGOGUE IN JERUSALEM. THE GUNMAN, A PALESTINIAN, WAS SHOT AND REPORTEDLY KILLED. THAT'S ACCORDING TO THE CHIEF OF THE JERUSALEM POLICE DISTRICT. IN TODAY'S KILLING IN JERUSALEM TOOK PLACE JUST ONE DAY AFTER ISRAELI TROOPS KILLED NINE PALESTINIANS IN THE DEADLIEST WEST BANK RAID IN YEARS. WE'LL BRING YOU MORE ON THIS STORY AS WE GET . AND WE WANT TO MENTION AS WELL THAT TODAY'S SHOOTING DOES COME ON INTERNATIONAL HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY. >> STILL TO COME WITH THE LATEST MURDER CHARGES BROUGHT AGAINST THE FIVE OFFICERS INVOLVED IN THE ARREST TYRE NICHOLS. WE TAKE AN IN-DEPTH LOOK AT THE POLICING IN AMERICA. THAT'S NEXT. YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME. REALLY STUNNING . THE NEW TWENTY TONIGHT ON ABC. >> WELCOME BACK. >> TYRE NICHOLS IS FAR FROM THE ONLY PERSON WHO HAS DIED FOLLOWING A BRUTAL ENCOUNTER WITH POLICE CALLING TO QUESTION HOW WE ARE POLICED AS A COUNTRY AND WHETHER WE ARE FACING A SYSTEMIC ABUSE OF POWER OR LINSEY DAVIS HAS MORE ON POLICING IN AMERICA. >> MAY TWENTY FIFTH, TWENTY , TWENTY WAS A TURNING POINT IN AMERICA AND PERHAPS GLOBALLY. GEORGE FLOYD WAS KILLED BY MINNEAPOLIS POLICE OFFICER DERRICK SHOWBAND, WHO PRESSED HIS KNEE INTO HIS FOR NINE AND A HALF MINUTES TALKING ABOUT CELL PHONE. VIDEO OF THE MURDER SPARKED NATIONAL OUTRAGE, PROTESTS ERUPTING FROM COAST TO COAST IN WHAT WAS CALLED A RACIAL RECKONING. FORMER OFFICER JOE BIDEN WAS CONVICTED OF MURDER MORE THAN TWO YEARS LATER, CAPPING WHAT SOME HOPE TO BE THE BEGINNING OF A NEW AGE OF ACCOUNTABILITY. AS THE STREETS FILLED WITH CALLS FOR JUSTICE, ANOTHER MOVEMENT BEGAN TO GROW FOR BREONNA TAYLOR, A WOMAN WHO WAS KILLED MONTHS EARLIER ON MARCH 13TH, 20 , ONLY MINUTES AFTER MIDNIGHT, AND AUTHORIZED BY A NO KNOCK WARRANT. ALTHOUGH OFFICERS USED A BATTERING RAM TO FORCE THEIR WAY INTO HER HOME SEEKING OUT HER BOYFRIEND, KENNETH WALKER, BEFORE HAND SHOTS WERE FIRED AT THE SCENE NIGHT IN HIS, KENNETH CALLED 911 FOR HELP AND FIRES A SHOT BECAUSE HE SAYS HE THOUGHT THERE WAS A BREAK IN THE DOOR. >> SHE SAID BREONNA TAYLOR IS STRUCK BY EIGHT BULLETS AND KILLED. >> HER FAMILY REACHED A 12 MILLION SETTLEMENT WITH THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE. AN OFFICER INVOLVED IN THE RAID WAS LATER INDICTED ON THREE COUNTS OF WANTON ENDANGERMENT. FOUR SHOTS THAT ENTERED A NEIGHBORING APARTMENT. THE OFFICER WHO SHOT BREONNA TAYLOR WAS NOT CHARGED . HOW DID THIS GET AWAY WITH IT? LET'S GET OUT OF JAIL AND GET AWAY WITH PASSIONATE CALLS. FOR JUSTICE, DEMANDING CHANGE, APRIL 11TH. 2020 ONE IN BROOKLYN CENTER, MINNESOTA, DONTE WRIGHT WAS PULLED OVER FOR EXPIRED REGISTRATION STANDS BY OFFICER KIM POTTER. TO TRAINING THE OFFICERS IN THE STOP ATTEMPTED TO TAKE DAUNTING INTO CUSTODY AFTER DETERMINING HE HAD A WARRANT OUT FOR HIS ARREST. >> HE RESISTED. OFFICER POTTER WARNS THAT SHE'S ABOUT TO FIRE HER TASER, BUT INSTEAD, WRIGHT'S CAR IS SPEEDING OFF BEFORE CRASHING INTO ANOTHER CAR BEFORE HE DIED AT THE SCENE, POTTER WAS FOUND GUILTY OF MANSLAUGHTER AND SENTENCED TO TWO YEARS. >> I LOST MY SON. HE'S NEVER COMING BACK . >> I CAN'T ACCEPT THAT ANOTHER FAMILY FINDS ITSELF AS THE NEWEST MEMBERS OF AN UNFORTUNATE AND GROWING CLUB OF MOURNING PARENTS, BROTHERS AND SISTERS LOOKING TO CHANGE A SYSTEM THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE MEANT TO PROTECT THEM. >> DAYS AFTER THE START OF THE NEW YEAR IN LOS ANGELES, FATHER AND ENGLISH TEACHER KEENAN ANDERSON DIED WHILE ON A TRIP TO VISIT HIS FAMILY JANUARY 3RD. THE 31 YEAR OLD WAS STOPPED BY AN OFFICER. WITNESSES POINTED TO HIM AS THE CAUSE OF A NEARBY CRASH. POLICE SAY ANDERSON WAS ERRATIC . >> BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE SHOWS HE WAS TASERED REPEATEDLY THROUGHOUT THE FLOOR, DIED IN A HOSPITAL MORE AND FOUR HOURS LATER, OFFICERS CLAIMED HE SUFFERED A MEDICAL EMERGENCY. HIS FAMILY FILED A FIFTY MILLION DOLLAR WRONGFUL DEATH SUIT AGAINST THE CITY. THE LAPD IS REVIEWING ITS POLICIES ON THE USE OF TASERS. POLICE ARE WAITING FOR A COMPLETED AUTOPSY REPORT. ANDERSON WAS THE COUSIN OF BLACK LIVES MATTER CO-FOUNDER PATRICE CULLORS, WHOSE WORK BECAME A RALLYING CRY IN THE DAYS AFTER FLOYDS DEATH. WE SPOKE TO OUR OWN PRIME ABOUT HOW THIS FAMILIAR TRAGEDY IS NOW SEWN INTO THE FABRIC OF HER OWN FAMILY. >> IT'S EXHAUSTING TO THINK THAT FOR A DECADE, MANY OF US HAVE BEEN DOING THIS WORK AND NOW IT'S AT MY OWN DOORSTEP. AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S SURREAL. STILL, BECAUSE I'M NOT JUST SCREAMING . >> MY WHOLE FAMILY IS AND WE'RE ALL TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF THIS MOMENT. >> THANKS TO "ABC NEWS LIVE" PRIME ANCHOR LINSEY DAVIS THE BODY CAMERA VIDEO AND HOME SECURITY FOOTAGE OF THE ATTACK AGAINST FORMER HOUSE SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI'S HUSBAND WAS RELEASED BY OFFICIALS TODAY. >> TAKE A LOOK. RELAXIUM . HOW ARE YOU DOING? WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? GOOD. HEY, DROP THE HAMMER. NO. HEY, HEY, HEY. >> WHAT IS GOING ON ? RIGHT. I'M NOT GETTING ANY. I'M FROM IS THE FIRST TIME THE PUBLIC GETS A LOOK INSIDE THE SAN FRANCISCO HOME ON THE NIGHT, THE SUSPECT, DAVID TIP-TOP, ALLEGEDLY BROKE INTO THE RESIDENCE IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, VIOLENTLY ATTACKING NANCYS HUSBAND PAUL WITH A HAMMER. THE EIGHTY TWO YEAR OLD WAS RUSHED TO THE HOSPITAL AND UNDERWENT BRAIN SURGERY. SO LET'S BRING IN ABC NEWS JIM RYAN IS LIVE FROM CAPITOL HILL. JAY, YOU WERE RIGHT THERE. AS PELOSI MADE HER REMARKS. >> WHAT DID SHE SAY? VERY BRIEF REMARKS, MONA. SHE HAD TEARS IN HER EYES. SHE SAYS, AND HERE'S THE QUOTE. I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO INTENTION OF SEEING THE DEADLY ASSAULT ON MY HUSBAND'S LIFE. WHAT SHE'S SAYING THERE IS THAT VIDEO THAT WE HAVE ALL SEEN SO MANY OF US HAVE SEEN. NOW, THE MOMENTS OF THAT ATTACK. IT APPEARS NANCY PELOSI SAYS SHE WILL NOT WATCH THAT VIDEO BECAUSE OF HOW GRIPPING IT IS AND BECAUSE OF HOW PAINFUL IT IS TO SEE SOMETHING SO GRAPHIC. AGAIN, WORTH POINTING OUT THAT SUSPECT, DAVID PAPPE, TOLD POLICE HE WAS THERE FOR NANCY PELOSI. HE WANTED TO TAKE HER HOSTAGE. SHE TOLD SAN FRANCISCO POLICE BECAUSE SHE WAS A HIGH PROFILE DEMOCRATIC LAWMAKER. MONA JUJU CHANG O'BRIEN FROM CAPITOL HILL. >> AND COMING UP, FERTILITY FRAUD FOLLOWING A 20 20 INVESTIGATION. THE PUSH TO PROTECT VICTIMS MAKING TO CAPITOL HILL YOU'RE STREAMING ABC NEWS LIVE . THE PUSH TO PROTECT VICTIMS OF FERTILITY FRAUD MAKES ITS WAY TO CAPITOL HILL. AND ABC NEWS LIVE ANCHOR KYRA PHILLIPS HAS AN UPDATE. >> NOW TO AN UPDATE ON OUR 2024 INVESTIGATION WE FIRST BROUGHT TO YOU THREE YEARS AGO WHEN EVE ,SHE WAS GROWING UP IN NACOGDOCHES, TEXAS. SHE KNEW SHE WAS A MIRACLE BABY BECAUSE AT THE AGE OF 16 , HER MOTHER FINALLY TOLD HER THAT WHEN SHE WASN'T ABLE TO GET PREGNANT, NATURALLY, SHE SOUGHT OUT THE HELP OF THEIR TOWN'S WELL KNOWN AND WELL RESPECTED FERTILITY DOCTOR , KYM MCMORRIS. AND AFTER A NUMBER OF ATTEMPTS ,EVE'S MOM FINALLY WAS ABLE TO CONCEIVE THROUGH ARTIFICIAL INSEMINATION WITH DONOR . NOW, ALTHOUGH EVE LOVED HER PARENTS VERY MUCH, SHE WAS CURIOUS. AND WHEN SHE TURNED 18 , SHE DECIDED SHE WANTED TO MEET HER BIOLOGICAL FATHER, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS DONOR ONE SIX. SO THIS TENACIOUS TEEN DID HER HOMEWORK AND TRACK DOWN DONOR 106 AND IT COULDN'T HAVE GONE ANY BETTER. >> STEVE SCHALE WAS THRILLED TO MEET EVE. MATTER OF FACT, THEIR BOND WAS INSTANT. AND STEVE EVEN OFFICIATED EVE'S WEDDING. BUT LIKE EVERY FAIRY TALE STORY, THERE ALWAYS SEEMS TO BE A TWIST. AND FOR EVE, IT WAS A DNA TEST AND A CLICK FROM A BIOLOGICAL FIRST COUSIN ONLINE. >> SHE WAS LIKE, I HAVE FAMILY IN TEXAS. TO MAKE MORRISES AND MORAY'S. AND I WAS LIKE, OH, MY . MY MOM'S GYNECOLOGIST WAS A MAURY'S JUST KIND OF LAUGHED LIKE A SMALL WORLD AND HA HA. >> AND THEN EVE MATCHES WITH ANOTHER BIOLOGICAL FIRST COUSIN ON TWENTY THREE AND ME AND STARTS ASKING HIM ABOUT HIS FAMILY AND HE SAID, I HAVE ONE UNCLE. >> HE LIVES IN NACOGDOCHES, TEXAS, AND HIS NAME IS KEMET MORRIS. AND I ASKED HIM AGAIN WHO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. AND I SAID, OH, THAT IS MY MOM'S FERTILITY DOCTOR . >> I THINK AT THAT POINT IT WAS ,I WAS, I WAS JUST IN SHOCK. >> I WAS IN SHOCK. AND SINCE THAT SHOCKING MOMENT, EVE HAS DEDICATED HER LIFE TO ADVOCATING FOR LAWS TO PROTECT VICTIMS OF FERTILITY FRAUD. AND THAT'S WHY SHE CAME TO OUR NATION'S CAPITAL TO JOIN MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AS THE PROTECTING FAMILIES FROM FERTILITY FRAUD. BILL WAS INTRODUCED, EVE, ALONG WITH CONGRESSWOMAN MICKEY SHERRILL, WHO HELPED TO INTRODUCE THIS BILL . JOIN ME NOW. SO, FIRST OF ALL, EVE, IT IS SO GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN. YOU HAVE BEEN VERY BUSY SINCE WE FIRST BROKE YOUR STORY ON TWENTY TWENTY MEETING OTHER VICTIMS LIKE YOURSELF, PASSING LEGISLATION STATE BY STATE. TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROGRESS. YES, WELL, IT STARTED WITH YOU. I FEEL LIKE I KNOW THREE YEARS AGO I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THIS ORGANIZED EFFORT OR EVEN I DID WHAT I WANTED TO DO. BUT IT STARTED IN TEXAS. AND THEN WHEN I CAME FORWARD, WHEN THAT 2020 EPISODE AIRED, I JUST GOT THIS OUTPOURING OF SUPPORT IN THESE ME TWO STORIES. AND FOR THAT, WE WERE JUST WORKING STATE BY STATE. AND IN 2019 THERE WAS ONE STATE FERTILITY FOR LEGISLATION. AND AS OF TWO WEEKS AGO, WE NOW HAVE 11 . AND THEN THIS WEEK IS EXTRA SPECIAL BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE A SPECIAL FERTILITY FROM GLAAD ON A FEDERAL LEVEL. >> NO, IT'S INCREDIBLE. AND THAT'S WHERE YOU COME IN. CONGRESSMAN OR CONGRESSWOMAN. CHERYL, YOU INTRODUCED THIS FEDERAL BILL ALONG WITH OTHER MEMBERS. TELL US WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO AND WHAT MOTIVATED YOU TO JOIN THIS CAUSE. WELL, THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT BILL BECAUSE ANYONE WHO HEARS EACH STORY RECOGNIZES THAT A CRIME HAS BEEN COMMITTED. BUT THERE REALLY WASN'T A CAUSE OF ACTION. THERE REALLY ISN'T A CAUSE OF ACTION FOR SO MANY PEOPLE AS THEY FIND OUT THEY HAVE BEEN VICTIMS OFTEN. YOU DON'T FIND THAT OUT UNTIL YOU DO. TWENTY THREE IN ME OR A GENETIC TEST ANCESTRY.COM. SUDDENLY YOU COME TO THIS CONCLUSION AND THERE'S NOT ALWAYS RECOURSE. AND IT WAS DONE INCREDIBLE. WORK. AND NOW WE HEAR THAT ELEVEN STATES HAVE SOME RECOURSE, BUT THAT IS NOT NEARLY ENOUGH. SO WE REALLY DO NEED FEDERAL LEGISLATION. SO WHEN MY FRIEND REPRESENTATIVE STEPHANIE BEISTE CAME TO ME AND SAID, THIS IS REALLY CONCERNING TO ME, WE'VE GOT TO PROTECT THESE FAMILIES, I WAS IMMEDIATELY ON BOARD. SO WE'VE INTRODUCED THIS LEGISLATION. IT WILL MAKE THIS A CRIME, A ABUSE CRIME, WHICH IT IS , AND WILL ADD A PREDICATE TO OUR RICO STATUTE SO IT CAN BE PROSEQUI AND THEN ADD CIVIL PENALTIES AS WELL. SO THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE OF FEDERAL LEGISLATION, A BIPARTISAN PIECE OF LEGISLATION TO PROTECT FAMILIES ACROSS OUR COUNTRY. PRETTY INCREDIBLE. AND EVE, WHAT IS IT BEEN LIKE TO MEET ALL THESE OTHER VICTIMS OF FERTILITY FRAUD? YOU KNOW HOW THEIR STORIES TOUCHED YOU, JUST KNOWING YOU'RE NOT ALONE, RIGHT? >> WELL, THAT'S WHAT MADE THIS WEEK EVEN MORE EMOTIONAL BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER AS EACH NEW STATE, EACH NEW VICTIM HAS COME FORWARD. WE'VE BEEN COLLECTING THE STORIES AND USING THOSE STORIES FOR A GREATER GOOD. BUT WITH COVID AND HAVING TO , WE'VE NEVER MET EACH OTHER BEFORE. AND SO THIS WEEK WE WERE ALL MEETING FOR THE FIRST TIME. SO IT WAS YOU KNOW, THEY ARE MY CHOSEN FAMILY. THEY ARE THE SILVER LINING IN ALL OF THIS. THEY ARE THE PEOPLE THAT REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT I'VE HAD TO GO THROUGH, MY MOTHER GOING THROUGH WHAT STEVE HAS GONE THROUGH. SO IT'S BEEN REALLY SPECIAL TO TO BRING ALL OF THIS FULL CIRCLE. AND IT WAS A VERY EMOTIONAL WEEK FOR EVERYONE. >> I CAN JUST IMAGINE. >> AND I'VE I HAVE TO ASK YOU, HOW IS STEVE IS DOING GOOD. >> THAT'S GREAT. AND , YOU KNOW, THIS WAS THIS WAS HARD FOR US . AND , YOU KNOW, STEVE , HE'S JUST HE'S SO AWESOME, BUT HE'S DOING GOOD THINGS FOR US . >> YES. >> AND SO KNOW HE'S THE BEST. WELL, AND YOU COULD ASK FOR A BETTER DONOR SLASH SPECIAL FATHER TO HAVE IN YOUR LIFE. I MEAN, YOU REALLY BROUGHT HIM IN. >> HE BROUGHT YOU IN. AND IT REALLY WAS THE SWEETEST PART OF THE STORY. >> I MEAN, YOU ARE SO BLESSED WITH FAMILY, EVE. I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING. SO GLAD YOU COULD JOIN ME. AND CONGRESSWOMAN CHERYL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING. IT MEANS A LOT NOT ONLY TO WOMEN WHO GO THROUGH FERTILITY, BUT JUST TO MAKE A REALLY POSITIVE EXPERIENCE. THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH. THANK YOU, KYRA. AND OUR THANKS TO KYRA PHILLIPS FOR BRINGING US THAT POWERFUL INTERVIEW. A MONA KOSAR ABDI. THANKS FOR JOINING US . REMEMBER, "ABC NEWS LIVE" IS HERE FOR YOU ALL DAY. BUT THE LATEST NEWS, CONTEXT AND ANALYSIS

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