Transcript for ABC News Live: Tyre Nichols’ family urges calm ahead of arrest video release
THE STORY IS , WE'LL TAKE YOU
THERE.
>> YOU'RE STREAMING
"ABC NEWS LIVE" AFTERNOON AT
MONA KOSAR ABDI TO TOP STORIES
TODAY ON "ABC NEWS LIVE".
MEMPHIS IS BRACING FOR
THE RELEASE OF THE ARREST VIDEO
AND THE DEATH OF TYRE NICHOLS.
WHAT WE'RE LEARNING ABOUT
THE FOOTAGE AS NICHOLS FAMILY
CALLS FOR ANY PROTEST TO REMAIN
PEACEFUL.
AND NEW DETAILS IN THE ATTACK
ON NANCY PELOSI'S HUSBAND.
WHAT WE'RE LEARNING FROM
THE RELEASE OF THE DRAMATIC
VIDEO IN THAT CASE.
PLUS, FERTILITY FRAUD.
WE HEAR FROM ONE WOMAN SHARING
HER STORY AMID EFFORTS TO STOP
OTHERS FROM FALLING VICTIM.
>> BUT WE DO BEGIN WITH NEW
EMOTIONAL REMARKS FROM
TYRE NICHOLS MOTHER AHEAD OF
THE RELEASE OF BODY CAMERA
FOOTAGE OF THE VIOLENT ARREST
THAT LED TO HER SON'S DEATH.
SHE SPOKE AT A NEWS CONFERENCE
A SHORT TIME AGO SAYING NO
MOTHER SHOULD GO THROUGH THIS,
WHAT SHE IS GOING THROUGH RIGHT
NOW.
>> TAKE A LISTEN.
>> I JUST WANT TO ASK A PRAYER
FOR MY FAMILY, FOR THIS WHOLE
COMMUNITY.
>> AND I WANT TO SAY TO THE
FIVE POLICE OFFICERS THAT
MURDERED MY SON, YOU ALSO
DISGRACED YOUR OWN FAMILY.
AND I STILL HAVEN'T HAD TIME
TO GRIEVE.
I'M STILL DEALING WITH THE
DEATH OF MY SON.
THIS IS THIS WAS NOT SUPPOSED
TO HAPPEN.
>> MY SON WAS SUPPOSED TO BE
WITH ME TODAY OR MANY AGENCIES
ACROSS THE NATION ARE BRACING
FOR THE VIDEO'S RELEASE
AND POTENTIAL PROTESTS.
THE FOOTAGE IS EXPECTED TO BE
VERY DISTURBING.
WE'RE TOLD IT SHOWS FIVE FORMER
MEMPHIS POLICE OFFICERS
VICIOUSLY BEATING NICHOLS AFTER
A TRAFFIC STOP.
THOSE FORMER OFFICERS NOW FACE
CHARGES, INCLUDING SECOND
DEGREE MURDER.
TO DISCUSS, ABC NEWS EM NGUYEN
ABC NEWS LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR
AND HOST OF LAW AND CRIME
NETWORK TERRY AUSTIN BOTH JOIN
ME.
AND I'M GOING TO START WITH YOU
BECAUSE YOU ARE IN MEMPHIS,
TENNESSEE, RIGHT NOW.
WHERE DO THINGS STAND WITH THE
FAMILY AS A COMMUNITY WAITS FOR
THE RELEASE OF THAT BODY?
CAMERA FOOTAGE THAT IS SET
TO BE DISTURBING?
YES, CERTAINLY, MONA.
RIGHT NOW IT IS TENSE IN
MEMPHIS AND IT'S ONLY GETTING
MORE TENSE AS WE GET NEARER
TO THE TIME IN WHICH
THE RELEASE OF THAT BODY CAMERA
FOOTAGE WILL COME OUT TONIGHT.
CERTAINLY, AUTHORITIES ARE
GEARING UP FOR EXPECTED
PROTESTS.
WE DID HEAR FROM THE FAMILY
AS WELL AS LAWYERS TODAY IN
THAT PRESS CONFERENCE WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT.
THEY WERE EMOTIONAL.
THEY WERE OUTRAGED.
THEY WERE CALLING FOR JUSTICE.
WE EVEN HEARD FROM THE ATTORNEY
BEN CRUMP, WHO WAS SAYING THAT
GIVING US MORE DETAILS FROM
THE BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE SAYING
THAT NICHOLS SAID, I JUST WANT
TO GO HOME.
HE CALLED OUT FOR HIS MULTIPLE
TIMES, OF COURSE, HIS MOM
GETTING EMOTIONAL, HEARING
ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
THEY ALSO CALLED ON REFORM FOR
POLICE, MAKING SURE THAT
THE POLICE OFFICERS INVOLVED IN
A CERTAIN INCIDENT CAN ALSO
STEP IN REQUIRING THAT
TO HAPPEN.
MOVING FORWARD THERE ALSO
CALLING ON SYSTEMIC CHANGES
ON THE CONGRESSIONAL LEVEL
AS WELL.
THEY'RE ALSO CALLING FOR
THE DISBANDING OF WHAT'S CALLED
THE SCORPION UNIT, WHICH
THE FIVE FORMER OFFICERS PLAYED
A ROLE IN DURING THIS TIME.
WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S ABOUT
50 MEMBERS ON THE UNIT.
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE TRYING
TO DECREASE THE CRIME IN
MEMPHIS, BUT CERTAINLY NOW IT
SEEMS LIKE A LAWYERS FOR
NICHOLAS KERR FAMILY IS SAYING
THAT SHOULD BE DISBANDED BY THE
.
ALL RIGHT.
AND EARLIER TODAY, THE MEMPHIS
POLICE CHIEF WAS ON GOOD
MORNING AMERICA TO DISCUSS
THE RELEASE OF THE POLICE BODY
CAMERA FOOTAGE.
SHE SAYS THAT SHE IS HORRIFIED
AND DISGUSTED.
LET'S TAKE LISTEN.
>> WHAT HAPPENED IN MEMPHIS
IS OBVIOUSLY TRAGIC.
I HAVE SEEN THE VIDEO MYSELF,
AND I WILL TELL YOU I WAS
APPALLED.
>> AUNT.
AND THAT IS ACTUALLY A QUESTION
FOR RAY, THE FBI DIRECTOR .
BUT TERRY, THE POLICE CHIEF
SAYS THAT THE REASON FOR
THE STOP IS STILL UNCLEAR.
>> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF WHAT
CHRISTOPHER RAY SAID?
WELL, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW,
AS THE HEAD OF THE FBI, HE
IS DEFINITELY GOING TO MAKE
SURE THAT THIS IS THOROUGHLY
INVESTIGATED BECAUSE THAT VIDEO
HE SAW, THE VIDEO IS HORRENDOUS
.
IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE WORST
VIDEOS BASED
ON THE DESCRIPTIONS THAT WE'VE
HEARD SO FAR .
>> SO I THINK THAT WE
WILL ULTIMATELY SEE CHARGES
BROUGHT ON THE FEDERAL SIDE OR
EVEN MAYBE WE WILL SEE AN
INVESTIGATION DONE AND PERHAPS
THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS WILL BE
CHARGED WITH ULTIMATELY HAVING
TO CHANGE THEIR PATTERNS
AND THEIR PRACTICES BECAUSE
THE DOJ HAS DONE THIS BEFORE,
WHEN THEY'RE HAVING A CASE OF
THIS MAGNITUDE OF THIS
EGREGIOUS ASSAULT ON THE CIVIL
RIGHTS OF AN INDIVIDUAL,
THEY LOOK INTO THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
WE SAW AFTER GEORGE FLOYD.
AND I THINK WE WILL PROBABLY
SEE IT HERE IN MEMPHIS AS WELL
.
SO THE FBI IS GOING
TO INVESTIGATE.
WE'RE GOING TO SEE, I THINK,
CHARGES BROUGHT BY ATTORNEY
GENERAL MERRICK GARLAND.
HE'S GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT IF
THERE IS SOME CONSTITUTIONAL
VIOLATION, THAT THERE'S
A PATTERN AND PRACTICE THAT
THAT IS THOROUGHLY ADDRESSED IN
THIS CASE.
BECAUSE HAVING FIVE OFFICERS DO
THIS AGAINST ONE INDIVIDUAL,
I DON'T THINK IT'S A QUESTION
OF RACE HERE.
I THINK IT'S A QUESTION OF
THE POLICE PRACTICE AND I THINK
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD
BE LOOKING INTO BECAUSE IT JUST
CONTINUES AFTER TIME AFTER
TIME, LOOKING OUT FOR
MORE CHARGES BECAUSE THESE ARE
ALREADY VERY SERIOUS CHARGES
THAT THEY'RE FACING.
BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND BRING IN
FORMER NYPD CHIEF OF DETECTIVES
ROBERT BOYCE AND RETIRED
CAPTAIN FOR THE MONTGOMERY
COUNTY, MARYLAND POLICE
DEPARTMENT, SONIA PRUITT.
SHE IS THE FOUNDER OF THE BLACK
POLICE EXPERIENCE.
ROBERT BOYCE, I WANT
TO ACTUALLY GO AHEAD AND START
WITH YOU, BECAUSE, AGAIN,
SOME OF THE CHARGES THAT
THEY ARE FACING INCLUDE
A KIDNAPPING CHARGE AND SECOND
DEGREE MURDER CHARGES AS WELL.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THESE
CHARGES AS THEY'RE EXTREME
AND WHAT I'M HEARING ABOUT THIS
VIDEO, THEY SAY, SHOULD BE SO
MR. GRIFFIN.
THE FBI IS TALKING ABOUT CIVIL
RIGHTS INVESTIGATIONS.
WE'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN IN
MINNEAPOLIS, THE SAME EXACT
THING WHERE THAT INDIVIDUAL ARE
TODD ANT WAS HAD TO GO THROUGH
POST CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY .
THEY WILL PROBABLY SEE THE SAME
HERE.
ALL LARA SPENCER WE SEE.
SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE
WELL.
AND I THINK I THINK PEOPLE
WILL BE REPULSED BY IT.
>> AND THIS WILL GO QUICKLY,
AS HE HAS ALREADY.
AND SONIA BEN CRUMP MENTIONED
SEVERAL TIMES THAT THESE
OFFICERS WERE PART OF A UNIT
CALLED THE SCORPION UNIT
AND CALLED FOR THAT UNIT TO BE
TO BE DISMANTLED.
CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
WHAT HE MEANS BY THE SCORPION
UNIT AND WHY HE MAY FIND THIS
PROBLEMATIC?
>> YES.
SO POLICE OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS
ALL OVER THE COUNTRY MAY HAVE
SPECIALIZED UNITS THAT THEY PUT
INTO NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEY
CALL THEM SATURATE UNITS
SOMETIMES.
>> BUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT
THEY TEND TO PATROL TEND TO BE
THE MORE DISADVANTAGED,
DISADVANTAGED NEIGHBORHOODS,
BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS, LATINO
NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND SO THERE'S SOME CONCERNS
ABOUT ARE WE OVERPOLICING
CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS IN THIS
PARTICULAR CASE?
>> THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME THERE
MAY BE SOME PROOF OF THAT.
AND SO BECAUSE OF WHAT'S
HAPPENED WITH MR. NICHOLS,
AND SO MR. CRUMP ASKING THAT
THE UNIT BE DISBANDED IS NOT
SURPRISING.
WE DON'T WANT OVERPOLICING OF
OUR DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES.
>> WE WANT PEOPLE TO GO IN
WHO CAN MAKE RELATIONSHIP
WITH THE COMMUNITIES AND BUILD
A BRIDGE BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY
AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND YOU CAN'T DO THAT IF YOU
THINK THAT YOU'RE GOING INTO
A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU'RE IN
THE ENEMY TERRITORY AND THAT
YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT
YOU CAN ARREST YOUR WAY
AND BEAT YOUR WAY OUT OF
WHATEVER THE CRIME ISSUES ARE
THERE, THAT IS NOT APPROPRIATE
.
>> AND LET'S BRING TERRY
BACK IN, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING
A LOT ABOUT THE CRIMINAL
CHARGES.
BUT THE NICHOLS FAMILY
ATTORNEY , BEN CRUMP, SAYS THAT
A CIVIL CASE WILL BE FILED.
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS AT STAKE
FOR THE MEMPHIS POLICE
DEPARTMENT IN THIS CASE?
WELL, I THINK WE'RE GOING
TO SEE QUITE A LARGE SETTLEMENT
AND THAT WILL , OF COURSE,
GO TO THE FAMILY.
AND WE'VE SEEN IT IN OTHER
CASES WHERE WE ARE SEEING
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN
SETTLEMENT.
BUT I THINK THE MORE IMPORTANT
ISSUE HERE, MONA, IS WHAT
HAPPENS WITH THAT POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
AND IT'S PART OF
THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT BEN CRUMP
OFTEN DOES WITH THESE POLICE
DEPARTMENTS.
THEY HAVE TO CHANGE
THEIR POLICIES.
THEY HAVE TO CHANGE
THEIR PRACTICES.
THEY HAVE TO INSTITUTE
SOME SORT OF TRAINING.
SO THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
AND I DEFINITELY THINK THAT
BRINGING THE CIVIL ACTION,
WHICH IS REALLY
A CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATION OF
THE RIGHTS, THE INDIVIDUAL HERE
DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S NOT
JUST THE MONETARY VALUE TO THE
FAMILY.
IT IS THE CHANGES THAT
HOPEFULLY WE WILL SOON SEE
STATE BY STATE DEPARTMENT,
DEPARTMENT IN ALL OF THESE
POLICE OFFICES.
I STILL I'M SHOCKED THAT IT'S
STILL HAPPENING, BUT OF COURSE,
IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME.
IT'S BEEN OVER THE COURSE OF
HUNDREDS OF YEARS.
SO I THINK ONE STEP AT A TIME,
ONE DAY AT A TIME.
>> AND WE ARE DEFINITELY
FOLLOWING A STORY ON ALL FRONTS
AHEAD OF THE RELEASE OF THAT
BODY CAMERA VIDEO LATER THIS
EVENING.
AND BOB, TERRY AND SEONA, THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING.
AND WE DO HAVE SOME BREAKING
NEWS.
AT LEAST SEVEN PEOPLE ARE DEAD
AND THREE ARE INJURED FOLLOWING
A SHOOTING NEAR A SYNAGOGUE IN
JERUSALEM.
THE GUNMAN, A PALESTINIAN, WAS
SHOT AND REPORTEDLY KILLED.
THAT'S ACCORDING TO THE CHIEF
OF THE JERUSALEM POLICE
DISTRICT.
IN TODAY'S KILLING IN JERUSALEM
TOOK PLACE JUST ONE DAY AFTER
ISRAELI TROOPS KILLED
NINE PALESTINIANS IN
THE DEADLIEST WEST BANK RAID IN
YEARS.
WE'LL BRING YOU MORE ON THIS
STORY AS WE GET .
AND WE WANT TO MENTION AS WELL
THAT TODAY'S SHOOTING DOES COME
ON INTERNATIONAL HOLOCAUST
REMEMBRANCE DAY.
>> STILL TO COME WITH THE
LATEST MURDER CHARGES BROUGHT
AGAINST THE FIVE OFFICERS
INVOLVED IN THE ARREST
TYRE NICHOLS.
WE TAKE AN IN-DEPTH LOOK AT
THE POLICING IN AMERICA.
THAT'S NEXT.
YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME.
REALLY STUNNING .
THE NEW TWENTY TONIGHT ON ABC.
>> WELCOME BACK.
>> TYRE NICHOLS IS FAR FROM
THE ONLY PERSON WHO HAS DIED
FOLLOWING A BRUTAL ENCOUNTER
WITH POLICE CALLING TO QUESTION
HOW WE ARE POLICED AS A COUNTRY
AND WHETHER WE ARE FACING
A SYSTEMIC ABUSE OF POWER OR
LINSEY DAVIS HAS MORE ON
POLICING IN AMERICA.
>> MAY TWENTY FIFTH, TWENTY ,
TWENTY WAS A TURNING POINT IN
AMERICA AND PERHAPS GLOBALLY.
GEORGE FLOYD WAS KILLED
BY MINNEAPOLIS POLICE OFFICER
DERRICK SHOWBAND, WHO PRESSED
HIS KNEE INTO HIS FOR NINE AND
A HALF MINUTES TALKING ABOUT
CELL PHONE.
VIDEO OF THE MURDER SPARKED
NATIONAL OUTRAGE, PROTESTS
ERUPTING FROM COAST TO COAST IN
WHAT WAS CALLED A RACIAL
RECKONING.
FORMER OFFICER JOE BIDEN WAS
CONVICTED OF MURDER MORE THAN
TWO YEARS LATER, CAPPING WHAT
SOME HOPE TO BE THE BEGINNING
OF A NEW AGE OF ACCOUNTABILITY.
AS THE STREETS FILLED
WITH CALLS FOR JUSTICE, ANOTHER
MOVEMENT BEGAN TO GROW FOR
BREONNA TAYLOR, A WOMAN WHO WAS
KILLED MONTHS EARLIER ON MARCH
13TH, 20 , ONLY MINUTES AFTER
MIDNIGHT, AND AUTHORIZED BY A
NO KNOCK WARRANT.
ALTHOUGH OFFICERS USED
A BATTERING RAM TO FORCE
THEIR WAY INTO HER HOME SEEKING
OUT HER BOYFRIEND,
KENNETH WALKER, BEFORE
HAND SHOTS WERE FIRED AT
THE SCENE NIGHT IN HIS,
KENNETH CALLED 911 FOR HELP
AND FIRES A SHOT BECAUSE HE
SAYS HE THOUGHT THERE WAS
A BREAK IN THE DOOR.
>> SHE SAID BREONNA TAYLOR
IS STRUCK BY EIGHT BULLETS
AND KILLED.
>> HER FAMILY REACHED A 12
MILLION SETTLEMENT WITH THE
CITY OF LOUISVILLE.
AN OFFICER INVOLVED IN THE RAID
WAS LATER INDICTED ON THREE
COUNTS OF WANTON ENDANGERMENT.
FOUR SHOTS THAT ENTERED
A NEIGHBORING APARTMENT.
THE OFFICER WHO SHOT
BREONNA TAYLOR WAS NOT CHARGED
.
HOW DID THIS GET AWAY WITH IT?
LET'S GET OUT OF JAIL AND GET
AWAY WITH PASSIONATE CALLS.
FOR JUSTICE, DEMANDING CHANGE,
APRIL 11TH.
2020 ONE IN BROOKLYN CENTER,
MINNESOTA, DONTE WRIGHT WAS
PULLED OVER FOR EXPIRED
REGISTRATION STANDS BY OFFICER
KIM POTTER.
TO TRAINING THE OFFICERS IN
THE STOP ATTEMPTED TO TAKE
DAUNTING INTO CUSTODY AFTER
DETERMINING HE HAD A WARRANT
OUT FOR HIS ARREST.
>> HE RESISTED.
OFFICER POTTER WARNS THAT
SHE'S ABOUT TO FIRE HER TASER,
BUT INSTEAD, WRIGHT'S CAR IS
SPEEDING OFF BEFORE CRASHING
INTO ANOTHER CAR BEFORE HE DIED
AT THE SCENE, POTTER WAS FOUND
GUILTY OF MANSLAUGHTER
AND SENTENCED TO TWO YEARS.
>> I LOST MY SON.
HE'S NEVER COMING BACK .
>> I CAN'T ACCEPT THAT ANOTHER
FAMILY FINDS ITSELF AS THE
NEWEST MEMBERS OF AN
UNFORTUNATE AND GROWING CLUB OF
MOURNING PARENTS, BROTHERS
AND SISTERS LOOKING TO CHANGE
A SYSTEM THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE
MEANT TO PROTECT THEM.
>> DAYS AFTER THE START OF
THE NEW YEAR IN LOS ANGELES,
FATHER AND ENGLISH TEACHER
KEENAN ANDERSON DIED WHILE ON A
TRIP TO VISIT HIS FAMILY
JANUARY 3RD.
THE 31 YEAR OLD WAS STOPPED
BY AN OFFICER.
WITNESSES POINTED TO HIM AS THE
CAUSE OF A NEARBY CRASH.
POLICE SAY ANDERSON WAS ERRATIC
.
>> BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE SHOWS HE
WAS TASERED REPEATEDLY
THROUGHOUT THE FLOOR, DIED IN
A HOSPITAL MORE AND FOUR HOURS
LATER, OFFICERS CLAIMED HE
SUFFERED A MEDICAL EMERGENCY.
HIS FAMILY FILED A FIFTY
MILLION DOLLAR WRONGFUL DEATH
SUIT AGAINST THE CITY.
THE LAPD IS REVIEWING ITS
POLICIES ON THE USE OF TASERS.
POLICE ARE WAITING FOR
A COMPLETED AUTOPSY REPORT.
ANDERSON WAS THE COUSIN OF
BLACK LIVES MATTER CO-FOUNDER
PATRICE CULLORS, WHOSE WORK
BECAME A RALLYING CRY IN
THE DAYS AFTER FLOYDS DEATH.
WE SPOKE TO OUR OWN PRIME ABOUT
HOW THIS FAMILIAR TRAGEDY
IS NOW SEWN INTO THE FABRIC OF
HER OWN FAMILY.
>> IT'S EXHAUSTING TO THINK
THAT FOR A DECADE, MANY OF
US HAVE BEEN DOING THIS WORK
AND NOW IT'S AT MY OWN
DOORSTEP.
AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S SURREAL.
STILL, BECAUSE I'M NOT JUST
SCREAMING .
>> MY WHOLE FAMILY IS AND WE'RE
ALL TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF
THIS MOMENT.
>> THANKS TO "ABC NEWS LIVE"
PRIME ANCHOR LINSEY DAVIS
THE BODY CAMERA VIDEO AND HOME
SECURITY FOOTAGE OF THE ATTACK
AGAINST FORMER HOUSE SPEAKER
NANCY PELOSI'S HUSBAND WAS
RELEASED BY OFFICIALS TODAY.
>> TAKE A LOOK.
RELAXIUM .
HOW ARE YOU DOING?
WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?
GOOD.
HEY, DROP THE HAMMER.
NO.
HEY, HEY, HEY.
>> WHAT IS GOING ON ?
RIGHT.
I'M NOT GETTING ANY.
I'M FROM IS THE FIRST TIME
THE PUBLIC GETS A LOOK INSIDE
THE SAN FRANCISCO HOME
ON THE NIGHT, THE SUSPECT,
DAVID TIP-TOP, ALLEGEDLY BROKE
INTO THE RESIDENCE IN OCTOBER
OF LAST YEAR, VIOLENTLY
ATTACKING NANCYS HUSBAND
PAUL WITH A HAMMER.
THE EIGHTY TWO YEAR OLD WAS
RUSHED TO THE HOSPITAL
AND UNDERWENT BRAIN SURGERY.
SO LET'S BRING IN ABC NEWS
JIM RYAN IS LIVE FROM
CAPITOL HILL.
JAY, YOU WERE RIGHT THERE.
AS PELOSI MADE HER REMARKS.
>> WHAT DID SHE SAY?
VERY BRIEF REMARKS, MONA.
SHE HAD TEARS IN HER EYES.
SHE SAYS, AND HERE'S THE QUOTE.
I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO INTENTION
OF SEEING THE DEADLY ASSAULT
ON MY HUSBAND'S LIFE.
WHAT SHE'S SAYING THERE IS THAT
VIDEO THAT WE HAVE ALL SEEN SO
MANY OF US HAVE SEEN.
NOW, THE MOMENTS OF THAT
ATTACK.
IT APPEARS NANCY PELOSI SAYS
SHE WILL NOT WATCH THAT VIDEO
BECAUSE OF HOW GRIPPING IT
IS AND BECAUSE OF HOW PAINFUL
IT IS TO SEE SOMETHING SO
GRAPHIC.
AGAIN, WORTH POINTING OUT THAT
SUSPECT, DAVID PAPPE, TOLD
POLICE HE WAS THERE FOR NANCY
PELOSI.
HE WANTED TO TAKE HER HOSTAGE.
SHE TOLD SAN FRANCISCO POLICE
BECAUSE SHE WAS A HIGH PROFILE
DEMOCRATIC LAWMAKER.
MONA JUJU CHANG O'BRIEN FROM
CAPITOL HILL.
>> AND COMING UP, FERTILITY
FRAUD FOLLOWING A 20
20 INVESTIGATION.
THE PUSH TO PROTECT VICTIMS
MAKING TO CAPITOL HILL
YOU'RE STREAMING ABC NEWS LIVE
.
THE PUSH TO PROTECT VICTIMS OF
FERTILITY FRAUD MAKES ITS WAY
TO CAPITOL HILL.
AND ABC NEWS LIVE ANCHOR
KYRA PHILLIPS HAS AN UPDATE.
>> NOW TO AN UPDATE ON OUR 2024
INVESTIGATION WE FIRST BROUGHT
TO YOU THREE YEARS AGO WHEN EVE
,SHE WAS GROWING UP IN
NACOGDOCHES, TEXAS.
SHE KNEW SHE WAS A MIRACLE
BABY BECAUSE AT THE AGE OF 16 ,
HER MOTHER FINALLY TOLD HER
THAT WHEN SHE WASN'T ABLE
TO GET PREGNANT, NATURALLY, SHE
SOUGHT OUT THE HELP OF
THEIR TOWN'S WELL KNOWN
AND WELL RESPECTED FERTILITY
DOCTOR , KYM MCMORRIS.
AND AFTER A NUMBER OF ATTEMPTS
,EVE'S MOM FINALLY WAS ABLE
TO CONCEIVE THROUGH ARTIFICIAL
INSEMINATION WITH DONOR .
NOW, ALTHOUGH EVE LOVED HER
PARENTS VERY MUCH, SHE WAS
CURIOUS.
AND WHEN SHE TURNED 18 , SHE
DECIDED SHE WANTED TO MEET HER
BIOLOGICAL FATHER, OTHERWISE
KNOWN AS DONOR ONE SIX.
SO THIS TENACIOUS TEEN DID HER
HOMEWORK AND TRACK DOWN DONOR
106 AND IT COULDN'T HAVE GONE
ANY BETTER.
>> STEVE SCHALE WAS THRILLED
TO MEET EVE.
MATTER OF FACT, THEIR BOND WAS
INSTANT.
AND STEVE EVEN OFFICIATED EVE'S
WEDDING.
BUT LIKE EVERY FAIRY TALE
STORY, THERE ALWAYS SEEMS TO BE
A TWIST.
AND FOR EVE, IT WAS A DNA TEST
AND A CLICK FROM A BIOLOGICAL
FIRST COUSIN ONLINE.
>> SHE WAS LIKE, I HAVE FAMILY
IN TEXAS.
TO MAKE MORRISES AND MORAY'S.
AND I WAS LIKE, OH, MY .
MY MOM'S GYNECOLOGIST WAS
A MAURY'S JUST KIND OF LAUGHED
LIKE A SMALL WORLD AND HA HA.
>> AND THEN EVE MATCHES
WITH ANOTHER BIOLOGICAL FIRST
COUSIN ON TWENTY THREE AND ME
AND STARTS ASKING HIM ABOUT HIS
FAMILY AND HE SAID, I HAVE
ONE UNCLE.
>> HE LIVES IN NACOGDOCHES,
TEXAS, AND HIS NAME IS KEMET
MORRIS.
AND I ASKED HIM AGAIN WHO ARE
YOU TALKING ABOUT.
AND I SAID, OH, THAT IS MY
MOM'S FERTILITY DOCTOR .
>> I THINK AT THAT POINT IT WAS
,I WAS, I WAS JUST IN SHOCK.
>> I WAS IN SHOCK.
AND SINCE THAT SHOCKING MOMENT,
EVE HAS DEDICATED HER LIFE
TO ADVOCATING FOR LAWS
TO PROTECT VICTIMS OF FERTILITY
FRAUD.
AND THAT'S WHY SHE CAME TO OUR
NATION'S CAPITAL TO JOIN
MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AS THE
PROTECTING FAMILIES FROM
FERTILITY FRAUD.
BILL WAS INTRODUCED, EVE, ALONG
WITH CONGRESSWOMAN MICKEY
SHERRILL, WHO HELPED
TO INTRODUCE THIS BILL .
JOIN ME NOW.
SO, FIRST OF ALL, EVE, IT IS SO
GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
YOU HAVE BEEN VERY BUSY SINCE
WE FIRST BROKE YOUR STORY
ON TWENTY TWENTY MEETING OTHER
VICTIMS LIKE YOURSELF, PASSING
LEGISLATION STATE BY STATE.
TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROGRESS.
YES, WELL, IT STARTED WITH YOU.
I FEEL LIKE I KNOW THREE YEARS
AGO I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THIS
ORGANIZED EFFORT OR EVEN I DID
WHAT I WANTED TO DO.
BUT IT STARTED IN TEXAS.
AND THEN WHEN I CAME FORWARD,
WHEN THAT 2020 EPISODE AIRED,
I JUST GOT THIS OUTPOURING OF
SUPPORT IN THESE ME TWO
STORIES.
AND FOR THAT, WE WERE JUST
WORKING STATE BY STATE.
AND IN 2019 THERE WAS ONE STATE
FERTILITY FOR LEGISLATION.
AND AS OF TWO WEEKS AGO, WE NOW
HAVE 11 .
AND THEN THIS WEEK IS EXTRA
SPECIAL BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE
A SPECIAL FERTILITY FROM GLAAD
ON A FEDERAL LEVEL.
>> NO, IT'S INCREDIBLE.
AND THAT'S WHERE YOU COME IN.
CONGRESSMAN OR CONGRESSWOMAN.
CHERYL, YOU INTRODUCED THIS
FEDERAL BILL ALONG WITH OTHER
MEMBERS.
TELL US WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO
AND WHAT MOTIVATED YOU TO JOIN
THIS CAUSE.
WELL, THIS IS A REALLY
IMPORTANT BILL BECAUSE ANYONE
WHO HEARS EACH STORY RECOGNIZES
THAT A CRIME HAS BEEN
COMMITTED.
BUT THERE REALLY WASN'T A CAUSE
OF ACTION.
THERE REALLY ISN'T A CAUSE OF
ACTION FOR SO MANY PEOPLE
AS THEY FIND OUT THEY HAVE BEEN
VICTIMS OFTEN.
YOU DON'T FIND THAT OUT UNTIL
YOU DO.
TWENTY THREE IN ME OR A GENETIC
TEST ANCESTRY.COM.
SUDDENLY YOU COME TO THIS
CONCLUSION AND THERE'S NOT
ALWAYS RECOURSE.
AND IT WAS DONE INCREDIBLE.
WORK.
AND NOW WE HEAR THAT ELEVEN
STATES HAVE SOME RECOURSE, BUT
THAT IS NOT NEARLY ENOUGH.
SO WE REALLY DO NEED FEDERAL
LEGISLATION.
SO WHEN MY FRIEND
REPRESENTATIVE STEPHANIE BEISTE
CAME TO ME AND SAID, THIS
IS REALLY CONCERNING TO ME,
WE'VE GOT TO PROTECT THESE
FAMILIES, I WAS IMMEDIATELY
ON BOARD.
SO WE'VE INTRODUCED THIS
LEGISLATION.
IT WILL MAKE THIS A CRIME, A
ABUSE CRIME, WHICH IT IS ,
AND WILL ADD A PREDICATE TO OUR
RICO STATUTE SO IT CAN
BE PROSEQUI AND THEN ADD CIVIL
PENALTIES AS WELL.
SO THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT
PIECE OF FEDERAL LEGISLATION,
A BIPARTISAN PIECE OF
LEGISLATION TO PROTECT FAMILIES
ACROSS OUR COUNTRY.
PRETTY INCREDIBLE.
AND EVE, WHAT IS IT BEEN LIKE
TO MEET ALL THESE OTHER VICTIMS
OF FERTILITY FRAUD?
YOU KNOW HOW THEIR STORIES
TOUCHED YOU, JUST KNOWING
YOU'RE NOT ALONE, RIGHT?
>> WELL, THAT'S WHAT MADE THIS
WEEK EVEN MORE EMOTIONAL
BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING
TOGETHER AS EACH NEW STATE,
EACH NEW VICTIM HAS COME
FORWARD.
WE'VE BEEN COLLECTING
THE STORIES AND USING THOSE
STORIES FOR A GREATER GOOD.
BUT WITH COVID AND HAVING TO ,
WE'VE NEVER MET EACH OTHER
BEFORE.
AND SO THIS WEEK WE WERE ALL
MEETING FOR THE FIRST TIME.
SO IT WAS YOU KNOW, THEY ARE
MY CHOSEN FAMILY.
THEY ARE THE SILVER LINING IN
ALL OF THIS.
THEY ARE THE PEOPLE THAT REALLY
UNDERSTAND WHAT I'VE HAD TO GO
THROUGH, MY MOTHER GOING
THROUGH WHAT STEVE HAS GONE
THROUGH.
SO IT'S BEEN REALLY SPECIAL
TO TO BRING ALL OF THIS FULL
CIRCLE.
AND IT WAS A VERY EMOTIONAL
WEEK FOR EVERYONE.
>> I CAN JUST IMAGINE.
>> AND I'VE I HAVE TO ASK YOU,
HOW IS STEVE IS DOING GOOD.
>> THAT'S GREAT.
AND , YOU KNOW, THIS WAS THIS
WAS HARD FOR US .
AND , YOU KNOW, STEVE ,
HE'S JUST HE'S SO AWESOME, BUT
HE'S DOING GOOD THINGS FOR US .
>> YES.
>> AND SO KNOW HE'S THE BEST.
WELL, AND YOU COULD ASK FOR
A BETTER DONOR SLASH SPECIAL
FATHER TO HAVE IN YOUR LIFE.
I MEAN, YOU REALLY BROUGHT HIM
IN.
>> HE BROUGHT YOU IN.
AND IT REALLY WAS THE SWEETEST
PART OF THE STORY.
>> I MEAN, YOU ARE SO BLESSED
WITH FAMILY, EVE.
I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE
DOING.
SO GLAD YOU COULD JOIN ME.
AND CONGRESSWOMAN CHERYL, THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU'RE
DOING.
IT MEANS A LOT NOT ONLY TO
WOMEN WHO GO THROUGH FERTILITY,
BUT JUST TO MAKE A REALLY
POSITIVE EXPERIENCE.
THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH.
THANK YOU, KYRA.
AND OUR THANKS TO KYRA PHILLIPS
FOR BRINGING US THAT POWERFUL
INTERVIEW.
A MONA KOSAR ABDI.
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