>> ABC NEWS LIVE. MY FAVORITE SHOW. MY FAVORITE SHOW. WELCOME BACK, EVERYONE. WELCOME BACK, EVERYONE. VIDEO SHOWS THE MOMENT A FAMILY VIDEO SHOWS THE MOMENT A FAMILY SAYS A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT SAYS A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT WORKER SHOT A GUN AT THEM CURLY WORKER SHOT A GUN AT THEM CURLY FRIES, A BANK WILL PAY OUT FRIES, A BANK WILL PAY OUT MILLIONS AT A SETTLEMENT. MILLIONS AT A SETTLEMENT. ITS TIES TO JEFFREY EPSTEIN. ITS TIES TO JEFFREY EPSTEIN. AND YOU MAY HAVE SOME TROUBLE AND YOU MAY HAVE SOME TROUBLE FINDING THE PERFECT PUMPKIN FINDING THE PERFECT PUMPKIN THIS FALL. THIS FALL. THESE STORIES AND MUCH MORE IN THESE STORIES AND MUCH MORE IN TONIGHT'S RUNDOWN. TONIGHT'S RUNDOWN. >> A FAMILY WHO WAS SHOT AT IN >> A FAMILY WHO WAS SHOT AT IN A DRIVE THRU IS SUING FAST FOOD A DRIVE THRU IS SUING FAST FOOD CHAIN JACK IN THE BOX ACCUSING CHAIN JACK IN THE BOX ACCUSING IT OF NOT KEEPING CUSTOMERS IT OF NOT KEEPING CUSTOMERS SAFE FROM DANGEROUS EMPLOYEES. SAFE FROM DANGEROUS EMPLOYEES. NEWLY SURVEILLANCE VIDEO SHOWS NEWLY SURVEILLANCE VIDEO SHOWS A JACK IN THE BOX EMPLOYEE A JACK IN THE BOX EMPLOYEE OPENING FIRE ON. OPENING FIRE ON. THE FAMILY'S CAR, THE DRIVER'S THE FAMILY'S CAR, THE DRIVER'S PREGNANT WIFE AND SIX YEAR OLD PREGNANT WIFE AND SIX YEAR OLD DAUGHTER WERE IN THE CAR THE DAUGHTER WERE IN THE CAR THE TIME. TIME. THEY ORDERED A COMBO MEAL FROM THEY ORDERED A COMBO MEAL FROM THE FAST FOOD CHAIN, BUT THE THE FAST FOOD CHAIN, BUT THE CURLY FRIES WERE MISSING, CURLY FRIES WERE MISSING, LEADING TO AN ARGUMENT WITH THE LEADING TO AN ARGUMENT WITH THE RESTAURANT STAFF. RESTAURANT STAFF. MOMENTS LATER, SAY AN EMPLOYEE MOMENTS LATER, SAY AN EMPLOYEE PULLED THE TRIGGER, FIRING PULLED THE TRIGGER, FIRING AT LEAST TWO SHOTS AT THE CAR. AT LEAST TWO SHOTS AT THE CAR. SHE PLEADED GUILTY TO A CHARGE SHE PLEADED GUILTY TO A CHARGE OF DEADLY CONDUCT. OF DEADLY CONDUCT. NO ONE WAS INJURED AND THE NO ONE WAS INJURED AND THE COMPANY DENIES ALL ALLEGATIONS COMPANY DENIES ALL ALLEGATIONS MADE AGAINST IT IN. MADE AGAINST IT IN. >> THE LAWSUIT. >> THE LAWSUIT. JPMORGAN CHASE TO PAY JPMORGAN CHASE TO PAY 75 MILLION TO THE U.S. 75 MILLION TO THE U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS TO SETTLE CLAIMS VIRGIN ISLANDS TO SETTLE CLAIMS THAT THE BANK ENABLED THAT THE BANK ENABLED JEFFREY EPSTEIN TO COMMIT ON JEFFREY EPSTEIN TO COMMIT ON THE ESTATE HE HAD THERE FOR THE ESTATE HE HAD THERE FOR YEARS. YEARS. THE BANK SAYING IT REGRETS ANY THE BANK SAYING IT REGRETS ANY ASSOCIATION WITH EPSTEIN ASSOCIATION WITH EPSTEIN AND DID NOT KNOW HE WAS USING AND DID NOT KNOW HE WAS USING THE BANK TO COMMIT HEINOUS THE BANK TO COMMIT HEINOUS CRIMES. CRIMES. SOME OF THE SETTLEMENT MONEY SOME OF THE SETTLEMENT MONEY WILL BE DONATED ORGANIZATIONS WILL BE DONATED ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELP VICTIMS OF HUMAN THAT HELP VICTIMS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING. TRAFFICKING. THE BANK ALSO A SIMILAR LAWSUIT THE BANK ALSO A SIMILAR LAWSUIT EARLIER IN THE YEAR FOR $290 EARLIER IN THE YEAR FOR $290 MILLION BROUGHT BY SURVIVORS MILLION BROUGHT BY SURVIVORS OF EPSTEIN'S ABUSE. OF EPSTEIN'S ABUSE. EPSTEIN DIED BY SUICIDE IN A EPSTEIN DIED BY SUICIDE IN A FEDERAL JAIL IN 2019. FEDERAL JAIL IN 2019. >> NEW YORK CITY IS ASKING >> NEW YORK CITY IS ASKING JUDGE TO CHANGE THE MANDATE JUDGE TO CHANGE THE MANDATE THAT REQUIRES THE CITY THAT REQUIRES THE CITY TO PROVIDE SHELTER TO ANYONE TO PROVIDE SHELTER TO ANYONE WHO ASKS FOR IT. WHO ASKS FOR IT. THEY'RE AIMING TO LIMIT THEY'RE AIMING TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF TIME MIGRANTS CAN THE AMOUNT OF TIME MIGRANTS CAN STAY IN CITY RUN FACILITIES. STAY IN CITY RUN FACILITIES. ADVOCACY GROUPS FIGHTING, ADVOCACY GROUPS FIGHTING, SAYING MORE PEOPLE WILL SLEEP SAYING MORE PEOPLE WILL SLEEP IN THE STREETS OF A CHANGES IN THE STREETS OF A CHANGES MADE. MADE. MEANWHILE GOVERNOR HOCHUL MEANWHILE GOVERNOR HOCHUL SIDING WITH THE MAYOR AND SHE SIDING WITH THE MAYOR AND SHE YESTERDAY ANNOUNCED YESTERDAY ANNOUNCED THE DEPLOYMENT OF AN ADDITIONAL THE DEPLOYMENT OF AN ADDITIONAL 150 GUARDSMEN TO HELP. 150 GUARDSMEN TO HELP. BALTIMORE POLICE BALTIMORE POLICE ARE INVESTIGATING THE DEATH ARE INVESTIGATING THE DEATH OF A 26-YEAR-OLD TECH CEO AS A OF A 26-YEAR-OLD TECH CEO AS A HOMICIDE. HOMICIDE. PAPA MARIE LE PARE, WHO RAN PAPA MARIE LE PARE, WHO RAN THE TECH COMPANY ECO MAPP, WAS THE TECH COMPANY ECO MAPP, WAS NAMED IN FORBES 30 UNDER NAMED IN FORBES 30 UNDER 30 LIST AND ATTENDED JOHNS 30 LIST AND ATTENDED JOHNS HOPKINS, WHERE SHE LAUNCHED HOPKINS, WHERE SHE LAUNCHED THE STARTUP A STUDENT. THE STARTUP A STUDENT. LE PAIR WAS FOUND IN AN LE PAIR WAS FOUND IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, AND POLICE APARTMENT COMPLEX, AND POLICE SAY THERE WERE SIGNS OF BLUNT SAY THERE WERE SIGNS OF BLUNT FORCE TRAUMA. FORCE TRAUMA. BALTIMORE POLICE BALTIMORE POLICE IS INVESTIGATING THE CASE AS A IS INVESTIGATING THE CASE AS A HOMICIDE. HOMICIDE. >> ACCORDING TO NEW FIGURES, >> ACCORDING TO NEW FIGURES, THE CDC LONG COVID AFFECTED THE CDC LONG COVID AFFECTED 6.9% OF ADULTS IN THE US. 6.9% OF ADULTS IN THE US. WOMEN MORE FREQUENTLY THAN WOMEN MORE FREQUENTLY THAN MEN AND PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF LARGE MEN AND PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF LARGE CENTRAL METRO AREAS WERE CENTRAL METRO AREAS WERE MORE LIKELY EXPERIENCE LONG MORE LIKELY EXPERIENCE LONG COVID. COVID. THE IMPACT HAS BEEN LOWER FOR THE IMPACT HAS BEEN LOWER FOR CHILDREN ABOUT 1.3% OF CHILDREN CHILDREN ABOUT 1.3% OF CHILDREN HAVE EVER BEEN AFFECTED. HAVE EVER BEEN AFFECTED. BUT AMONG KIDS DATA SHOWS 12 TO BUT AMONG KIDS DATA SHOWS 12 TO 17 YEAR OLDS WERE MOST LIKELY 17 YEAR OLDS WERE MOST LIKELY TO BE BY LONG COVID SYMPTOMS. TO BE BY LONG COVID SYMPTOMS. AND HISPANIC CHILDREN HAVE BEEN AND HISPANIC CHILDREN HAVE BEEN MOST AFFECTED. MOST AFFECTED. >> FROM NEW JERSEY TO KENTUCKY >> FROM NEW JERSEY TO KENTUCKY AND THE WAY DOWN TO TEXAS, AND THE WAY DOWN TO TEXAS, FARMERS ARE BATTLING A WHOLE FARMERS ARE BATTLING A WHOLE HOST OF CONDITIONS, SQUASHING HOST OF CONDITIONS, SQUASHING THOSE PERFECT PUMPKIN DREAMS. THOSE PERFECT PUMPKIN DREAMS. BUT EXPERTS SAY DESPITE BUT EXPERTS SAY DESPITE THE FRIGHT, IT'S NOT DIRE THE FRIGHT, IT'S NOT DIRE EVERYWHERE, ESPECIALLY EVERYWHERE, ESPECIALLY IN ILLINOIS, THE LARGEST IN ILLINOIS, THE LARGEST PUMPKIN PRODUCING STATE IN THE PUMPKIN PRODUCING STATE IN THE COUNTRY. COUNTRY. AND IT HAPPY DAY FARMS AND IT HAPPY DAY FARMS IN MANALAPAN, NEW JERSEY. IN MANALAPAN, NEW JERSEY. DESPITE A SHORT DROUGHT DESPITE A SHORT DROUGHT THAT SET THEIR CROPS BACK THREE THAT SET THEIR CROPS BACK THREE WEEKS. WEEKS. THEY SAY THEIR PUMPKINS NOW THEY SAY THEIR PUMPKINS NOW PERFECT FOR PICKING PANIC PERFECT FOR PICKING PANIC ATTACKS. ATTACKS. MANY PEOPLE HAVE THEM AND DON'T MANY PEOPLE HAVE THEM AND DON'T EVEN REALIZE IT. EVEN REALIZE IT. IT'S SOMETHING OUR CHIEF IT'S SOMETHING OUR CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT MATT NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT MATT GUTMAN, STRUGGLED WITH FOR GUTMAN, STRUGGLED WITH FOR YEARS AND HE'S ONLY GOING YEARS AND HE'S ONLY GOING PUBLIC ABOUT IT NOW IN HIS PUBLIC ABOUT IT NOW IN HIS NEW BOOK. NEW BOOK. NO TIME TO PANIC. NO TIME TO PANIC. WE SAT DOWN WITH HIM FOR AN WE SAT DOWN WITH HIM FOR AN INTIMATE CONVERSATION ABOUT HIS INTIMATE CONVERSATION ABOUT HIS STRUGGLES AND WHAT STRUGGLES AND WHAT HE ULTIMATELY DECIDED TO DO HE ULTIMATELY DECIDED TO DO TO MOVE FORWARD. TO MOVE FORWARD. >> I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER >> I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER TITLE. TITLE. NO TIME TO PANIC. NO TIME TO PANIC. SO HERE YOU ARE, THIS SO HERE YOU ARE, THIS COURAGEOUS FEARLESS COURAGEOUS FEARLESS WORLD TRAVELER. WORLD TRAVELER. >> I GOT VERY MUCH OUT >> I GOT VERY MUCH OUT OF CHAOTIC REPORTING ON SOME OF CHAOTIC REPORTING ON SOME OF THE BIGGEST EVENTS OF OUR OF THE BIGGEST EVENTS OF OUR LIFETIME. LIFETIME. >> ARE YOU PREPARED FOR >> ARE YOU PREPARED FOR CONFRONTATION? CONFRONTATION? >> IF IT HAS TO HAPPEN >> IF IT HAS TO HAPPEN AND YOU'RE SUFFERING WITH WITH AND YOU'RE SUFFERING WITH WITH PANIC ATTACKS AND ANXIETY. PANIC ATTACKS AND ANXIETY. WHEN WAS THE FIRST MOMENT WHEN WAS THE FIRST MOMENT THAT YOU FELT THAT AND YOU WERE THAT YOU FELT THAT AND YOU WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY IT AS SUCH? ABLE TO IDENTIFY IT AS SUCH? >> TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. >> TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. THE FIRST TIME I EXPERIENCED THE FIRST TIME I EXPERIENCED PANIC THAT FULL ON UNDERWEAR PANIC THAT FULL ON UNDERWEAR WEDDING AND MOLTING INTO WEDDING AND MOLTING INTO A WEREWOLF EXPERIENCE WAS A WEREWOLF EXPERIENCE WAS IN COLLEGE DEFENDING MY THESIS. IN COLLEGE DEFENDING MY THESIS. AND I GOT UP TO THE PODIUM AND I GOT UP TO THE PODIUM AND IT FELT LIKE THE FLOOR HAD AND IT FELT LIKE THE FLOOR HAD FALLEN OUT. FALLEN OUT. I WAS GRIPPING A PODIUM I WAS GRIPPING A PODIUM WITH WHITE KNUCKLED GRIP AND I WITH WHITE KNUCKLED GRIP AND I COULDN'T SEE. COULDN'T SEE. I COULDN'T BREATHE. I COULDN'T BREATHE. I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING. I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING. BUT IT TOOK 15 YEARS FOR ME BUT IT TOOK 15 YEARS FOR ME TO ACTUALLY RECOGNIZE THAT THAT TO ACTUALLY RECOGNIZE THAT THAT OF SYMPTOMS THAT I HAD OF SYMPTOMS THAT I HAD EXPERIENCED WAS ACTUALLY A EXPERIENCED WAS ACTUALLY A PANIC ATTACK, PARTLY BECAUSE PANIC ATTACK, PARTLY BECAUSE I JUST CHALKED IT UP AS NERVES I JUST CHALKED IT UP AS NERVES AND I WENT THROUGH IT. AND I WENT THROUGH IT. RADIO AND THEN TELEVISION RADIO AND THEN TELEVISION AND MY GOD, THAT'S JUST NERVES. AND MY GOD, THAT'S JUST NERVES. >> BUT IT WOULD LEAVE JUST >> BUT IT WOULD LEAVE JUST COMPLETELY WRACKED AND WRECKED COMPLETELY WRACKED AND WRECKED AFTERWARDS. AFTERWARDS. AND SO WHEN DID YOU REALIZE, AND SO WHEN DID YOU REALIZE, OH, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS? OH, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS? >> I MEAN, IT WAS PROBABLY >> I MEAN, IT WAS PROBABLY IN 2013. IN 2013. IT'S ACTUALLY WHEN DAN HARRIS IT'S ACTUALLY WHEN DAN HARRIS TOLD ME HIS BOOK. TOLD ME HIS BOOK. >> I SAT DOWN AND DAN HARRIS' >> I SAT DOWN AND DAN HARRIS' OFFICE AND HE STARTED OFFICE AND HE STARTED DESCRIBING THIS BOOK, WHAT IT'S DESCRIBING THIS BOOK, WHAT IT'S ABOUT. ABOUT. I SAID, THAT'S A PANIC ATTACK. I SAID, THAT'S A PANIC ATTACK. THAT'S. THAT'S. I GET THAT ALMOST EVERY TIME I GET THAT ALMOST EVERY TIME I GO IN THERE AND. I GO IN THERE AND. >> THEN WHAT DID YOU DO? >> THEN WHAT DID YOU DO? I KEPT IT SECRET. I KEPT IT SECRET. I COULDN'T TELL ANYONE. I COULDN'T TELL ANYONE. I MEAN, HAVING PANIC WHEN I MEAN, HAVING PANIC WHEN YOU'RE LIVE ON TELEVISION AS, YOU'RE LIVE ON TELEVISION AS, A BROADCAST REPORTER IS LIKE A BROADCAST REPORTER IS LIKE A FREE SOLO CLIMB OR A FREE SOLO CLIMB OR BEING AFRAID OF HEIGHTS. BEING AFRAID OF HEIGHTS. IT IS A MAJOR PROFESSIONAL IT IS A MAJOR PROFESSIONAL LIABILITY. LIABILITY. SO I KEPT IT SECRET. SO I KEPT IT SECRET. I DIDN'T TELL ANYBODY. I DIDN'T TELL ANYBODY. MY WIFE KNEW, MY SHRINK KNEW, MY WIFE KNEW, MY SHRINK KNEW, ALTHOUGH WE DIDN'T REALLY ALTHOUGH WE DIDN'T REALLY TACKLE IT HEAD ON. TACKLE IT HEAD ON. AND AT THAT POINT I JUST TRIED AND AT THAT POINT I JUST TRIED TO SUBDUE WITH EVERYTHING TO SUBDUE WITH EVERYTHING THAT I COULD. THAT I COULD. I MEAN, I HAD MAGICAL UNDERWEAR I MEAN, I HAD MAGICAL UNDERWEAR ,THE ROTATION I HAD. ,THE ROTATION I HAD. I SMOKED CIGARETTES BEFORE LIVE I SMOKED CIGARETTES BEFORE LIVE SHOT. SHOT. I WOULD DO STRETCHING. I WOULD DO STRETCHING. I WOULD JUST ARRIVE REALLY, I WOULD JUST ARRIVE REALLY, REALLY LATE. REALLY LATE. SO THERE BE ANY PRESSURE, SO THERE BE ANY PRESSURE, ANYTHING TO TRY TO LIKE CHANGE ANYTHING TO TRY TO LIKE CHANGE THE RHYTHM OF THAT INTENSE THE RHYTHM OF THAT INTENSE PRESSURE THAT I FELT. PRESSURE THAT I FELT. AND SO YOU GO TO YOU TRY EVEN AND SO YOU GO TO YOU TRY EVEN HALLUCINOGENS, YOU GO RETREATS HALLUCINOGENS, YOU GO RETREATS IN PERU. IN PERU. DID ANY OF THESE METHODS. DID ANY OF THESE METHODS. I WOULDN'T JUST LIKE THERE'S I WOULDN'T JUST LIKE THERE'S ONE THING THAT'S SORT ONE THING THAT'S SORT OF INTERESTING WHY PEOPLE ASK. OF INTERESTING WHY PEOPLE ASK. WELL, MATT, YOU'RE BY WELL, MATT, YOU'RE BY DEFINITION A COURAGEOUS PERSON. DEFINITION A COURAGEOUS PERSON. WE'VE SEEN YOU GO TO WAR ZONES WE'VE SEEN YOU GO TO WAR ZONES . . YOU LOVE IT. YOU LOVE IT. AND I FEEL MORE CALM WHEN AND I FEEL MORE CALM WHEN EVERYTHING IS CHAOS AROUND ME EVERYTHING IS CHAOS AROUND ME THAN I AM WHEN IT'S THIS THAN I AM WHEN IT'S THIS PRISTINE LIVE SHOT AND NOTHING PRISTINE LIVE SHOT AND NOTHING IS HAPPENING. IS HAPPENING. AND I'M EXPECTED TO BE AND I'M EXPECTED TO BE FLAWLESS. FLAWLESS. IT'S FEAR OF THE EXPECTATION IT'S FEAR OF THE EXPECTATION OF PERFECTION THAT MAKES ME OF PERFECTION THAT MAKES ME CRUMBLE. CRUMBLE. AND SO IT ALL CAME TUMBLING AND SO IT ALL CAME TUMBLING DOWN FOR ME WHEN I HAD TO GO DOWN FOR ME WHEN I HAD TO GO REPORT ON THE KOBE BRYANT REPORT ON THE KOBE BRYANT HELICOPTER CRASH JANUARY 26, HELICOPTER CRASH JANUARY 26, 2020. 2020. I MADE A CATASTROPHIC MISTAKE I MADE A CATASTROPHIC MISTAKE DURING A PANIC ATTACK ON AIR. DURING A PANIC ATTACK ON AIR. AND FOR YEARS I'D BEEN TELLING AND FOR YEARS I'D BEEN TELLING MY WIFE THAT I WAS UNHAPPY MY WIFE THAT I WAS UNHAPPY AND HAD SUPPORTED ME AND HAD SUPPORTED ME IN THINKING ABOUT MAYBE DOING IN THINKING ABOUT MAYBE DOING SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE JOB SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE JOB REQUIRES YOU TO BE COOL REQUIRES YOU TO BE COOL AND CALM, NOT PANIC. AND CALM, NOT PANIC. >> RIGHT. >> RIGHT. AND SO I NEVER HAD A PROBLEM, AND SO I NEVER HAD A PROBLEM, RIGHT? RIGHT? I NEVER MADE A MISTAKE. I NEVER MADE A MISTAKE. BUT MY FEAR WAS THAT I WOULD BUT MY FEAR WAS THAT I WOULD LOSE CONTROL AND MAKE LOSE CONTROL AND MAKE A MISTAKE. A MISTAKE. AND THEN IT HAPPENED. AND THEN IT HAPPENED. AND THAT WAS SHATTERING FOR ME. AND THAT WAS SHATTERING FOR ME. AND SO I WAS SUSPENDED FOR AND SO I WAS SUSPENDED FOR A MONTH. A MONTH. AND DURING THAT SUSPENSION, AND DURING THAT SUSPENSION, I STARTED DOING DIFFERENT I STARTED DOING DIFFERENT BECAUSE SUSPENSION HAS A WAY BECAUSE SUSPENSION HAS A WAY OF OPENING UP YOUR SCHEDULE. OF OPENING UP YOUR SCHEDULE. SO I DID SOMETHING CALLED SO I DID SOMETHING CALLED HOLLY TROPIC BREATHWORK AND IT HOLLY TROPIC BREATHWORK AND IT TAKES YOU TO AN ALTERED TAKES YOU TO AN ALTERED BASICALLY. BASICALLY. AND I STARTED CRYING AND. AND I STARTED CRYING AND. IT OPENED ME UP IN A WAY THAT I IT OPENED ME UP IN A WAY THAT I HADN'T EXPECTED. HADN'T EXPECTED. I TALK TO YOU WHEN YOU FIRST I TALK TO YOU WHEN YOU FIRST TALKED ABOUT THE BOOK COMING TALKED ABOUT THE BOOK COMING OUT ON ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND OUT ON ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND AND GAVE YOU THIS ADMISSION AND GAVE YOU THIS ADMISSION BECAUSE IT FELT GOOD TO KNOW BECAUSE IT FELT GOOD TO KNOW LIKE I KNEW ABOUT DAN HARRIS. LIKE I KNEW ABOUT DAN HARRIS. I HAD HAD CONVERSATIONS I HAD HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM AND THEN I WAS LIKE, WITH HIM AND THEN I WAS LIKE, OH, MY GOSH. OH, MY GOSH. >> AND MATT, TOO. >> AND MATT, TOO. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IT CAN YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IT CAN ALLOW US ALL TO FEEL SAFE, ALLOW US ALL TO FEEL SAFE, RIGHT, WHEN YOU KNOW RIGHT, WHEN YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE. THAT YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE. BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT TALK ABOUT OFTEN. THAT TALK ABOUT OFTEN. AND I'M CURIOUS, WHAT MADE AND I'M CURIOUS, WHAT MADE YOU DECIDE TO BE SO VULNERABLE? YOU DECIDE TO BE SO VULNERABLE? IT'S ONE THING TO TALK BEHIND IT'S ONE THING TO TALK BEHIND CLOSED IN AN OFFICE. CLOSED IN AN OFFICE. IT'S ANOTHER TO SAY, I'M MATT IT'S ANOTHER TO SAY, I'M MATT GUTMAN AND SUFFER FROM PANIC GUTMAN AND SUFFER FROM PANIC ATTACKS. ATTACKS. >> AND HERE'S MY LIFE STORY. >> AND HERE'S MY LIFE STORY. I DIDN'T. I DIDN'T. FIRST OF ALL, I WAS SO MOVED FIRST OF ALL, I WAS SO MOVED AND GRATEFUL THAT YOU WERE AND GRATEFUL THAT YOU WERE WILLING TO SHARE WITH ME WILLING TO SHARE WITH ME YOUR STORY. YOUR STORY. AND I THOUGHT, SAME THING. AND I THOUGHT, SAME THING. LIKE LINSEY. LIKE LINSEY. COME ON, LINSEY DAVIS, YOU HAVE COME ON, LINSEY DAVIS, YOU HAVE THE MOST PRESENCE THE MOST PRESENCE AND CENTEREDNESS OF ALMOST AND CENTEREDNESS OF ALMOST ANYBODY IN BUSINESS. ANYBODY IN BUSINESS. BUT PEOPLE ARE SURPRISED BUT PEOPLE ARE SURPRISED THAT PEOPLE LIKE US EXPERIENCE THAT PEOPLE LIKE US EXPERIENCE . . AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I HAD TO SHARE IT, BECAUSE SO I HAD TO SHARE IT, BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE DO MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE DO THE SCIENCE THAT DATA FROM THE SCIENCE THAT DATA FROM 26 SHOWS THAT 28% OF AMERICANS 26 SHOWS THAT 28% OF AMERICANS ARE LIKELY TO EXPERIENCE ARE LIKELY TO EXPERIENCE A PANIC ATTACK IN THEIR A PANIC ATTACK IN THEIR LIFETIME. LIFETIME. IN 26, I HAD ALREADY IN 26, I HAD ALREADY EXPERIENCED PANIC FOR YEARS. EXPERIENCED PANIC FOR YEARS. I WOULD NEVER HAVE KNOWN I WOULD NEVER HAVE KNOWN TO ANSWER THE SURVEY CORRECTLY TO ANSWER THE SURVEY CORRECTLY BECAUSE I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW BECAUSE I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW TO DIAGNOSE MYSELF. TO DIAGNOSE MYSELF. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT I HAD PANIC I DIDN'T KNOW THAT I HAD PANIC . . SO PSYCHOLOGISTS BELIEVE SO PSYCHOLOGISTS BELIEVE THE REAL NUMBER IS PROBABLY THE REAL NUMBER IS PROBABLY ABOUT 50% OF AMERICANS ABOUT 50% OF AMERICANS WILL EXPERIENCE A PANIC ATTACK WILL EXPERIENCE A PANIC ATTACK IN THEIR LIFETIME AND THE IN THEIR LIFETIME AND THE SYMPTOMS. SYMPTOMS. SO CLOSELY MIMIC A HEART ATTACK SO CLOSELY MIMIC A HEART ATTACK THAT IT HAS A SERIOUS ON EFFECT THAT IT HAS A SERIOUS ON EFFECT ON OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. ON OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. >> IF THERE'S ONE TAKE AWAY >> IF THERE'S ONE TAKE AWAY THAT YOU WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE, THAT YOU WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE, IF THEY READ OR GET A CHANCE IF THEY READ OR GET A CHANCE TO TO TAKE A LOOK AT NO TIME TO TO TAKE A LOOK AT NO TIME TO PANIC, WHAT WOULD IT BE? TO PANIC, WHAT WOULD IT BE? THERE ARE TWO, MAYBE THREE. THERE ARE TWO, MAYBE THREE. ONE PANIC IS NORMAL. ONE PANIC IS NORMAL. PANIC IS PERVASIVE. PANIC IS PERVASIVE. SO MANY PEOPL