ABCNL EXCLUSIVE: Biden’s special counsel investigation

ABC News Chief Justice correspondent Pierre Thomas reports on new details from the special counsel investigation into President Biden’s handling of classified documents.
3:09 | 09/26/23

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JOINING US. AND WE ALSO HAVE MORE BREAKING AND WE ALSO HAVE MORE BREAKING NEWS AT THIS HOUR. NEWS AT THIS HOUR. ABC NEWS HAS LEARNED EXCLUSIVE ABC NEWS HAS LEARNED EXCLUSIVE NEW DETAILS ABOUT THE SPECIAL NEW DETAILS ABOUT THE SPECIAL COUNSEL INVESTIGATION INTO COUNSEL INVESTIGATION INTO PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN'S HANDLING PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN'S HANDLING OF CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS. OF CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS. I WANT TO BRING IN NOW I WANT TO BRING IN NOW ABC CHIEF JUSTICE ABC CHIEF JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT PIERRE THOMAS, CORRESPONDENT PIERRE THOMAS, WHO'S REPORTING OUT OF OUR WHO'S REPORTING OUT OF OUR INVESTIGATIVE UNIT. INVESTIGATIVE UNIT. PIERRE. PIERRE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE WITH US. WITH US. AND LOOK, SOURCES TELLING AND LOOK, SOURCES TELLING ABC NEWS THAT INVESTIGATORS ABC NEWS THAT INVESTIGATORS HAVE INTERVIEWED AS MANY AS 100 HAVE INTERVIEWED AS MANY AS 100 PEOPLE AND THAT INCLUDES PEOPLE AND THAT INCLUDES A CURRENT MEMBER OF THE A CURRENT MEMBER OF THE BIDEN CABINET. BIDEN CABINET. >> IS THAT RIGHT? >> IS THAT RIGHT? WE'RE GETTING A LOT MORE DETAIL WE'RE GETTING A LOT MORE DETAIL INTO THE SCOPE AND THE SCALE INTO THE SCOPE AND THE SCALE OF THIS INVESTIGATION. OF THIS INVESTIGATION. AND WHAT WE FOUND AS THEY'VE AND WHAT WE FOUND AS THEY'VE BEEN QUITE BUSY. BEEN QUITE BUSY. YOU SAID AS MANY AS 100 YOU SAID AS MANY AS 100 PEOPLE INTERVIEWED THUS. PEOPLE INTERVIEWED THUS. WE ARE TOLD THAT THE SECRETARY WE ARE TOLD THAT THE SECRETARY OF STATE, BLINKEN HAS BEEN OF STATE, BLINKEN HAS BEEN AMONG THOSE INTERVIEWED. AMONG THOSE INTERVIEWED. AND WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED AND WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED IS THAT THE INVESTIGATORS HAVE IS THAT THE INVESTIGATORS HAVE BEEN PARTICULARLY INTERESTED, BEEN PARTICULARLY INTERESTED, OF COURSE, IN KNOWING HOW THOSE OF COURSE, IN KNOWING HOW THOSE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS GOT CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS GOT TO THAT THINK TANK TO THAT THINK TANK IN WASHINGTON AND ALSO IN WASHINGTON AND ALSO TO PRESIDENT BIDEN'S HOME. TO PRESIDENT BIDEN'S HOME. THEY ALSO ARE VERY INTERESTED THEY ALSO ARE VERY INTERESTED IN HOW INTERACTED IN HOW INTERACTED WITH CLASSIFIED MATERIALS. WITH CLASSIFIED MATERIALS. SO WE'RE BEGINNING TO SEE SO WE'RE BEGINNING TO SEE THAT THE SPECIAL COUNSEL THAT THE SPECIAL COUNSEL HER HAS LOOKING AT A VERY BROAD HER HAS LOOKING AT A VERY BROAD SPATE OF INFORMATION, TRYING SPATE OF INFORMATION, TRYING ASSESS WHETHER CRIMES HAVE BEEN ASSESS WHETHER CRIMES HAVE BEEN COMMITTED IN ANY FASHION. COMMITTED IN ANY FASHION. >> AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, CAN >> AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, CAN YOU REMIND OUR VIEWERS YOU REMIND OUR VIEWERS ABOUT ROBERT, HER PROSECUTOR ABOUT ROBERT, HER PROSECUTOR IN CHARGE OF THIS PROBE, IN CHARGE OF THIS PROBE, AND WHAT EXACTLY LED TO AND WHAT EXACTLY LED TO HIS APPOINTMENT ON THIS SPECIAL HIS APPOINTMENT ON THIS SPECIAL COUNSEL? COUNSEL? >> WELL, FIRST AND FOREMOST, >> WELL, FIRST AND FOREMOST, HE IS A U.S. ATTORNEY WHO HE IS A U.S. ATTORNEY WHO WORKED OUT OF MARYLAND, AND HE WORKED OUT OF MARYLAND, AND HE WAS APPOINTED BY FORMER WAS APPOINTED BY FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS, QUITE FRANKLY, WHY THE ATTORNEY QUITE FRANKLY, WHY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, MERRICK GARLAND, GENERAL, MERRICK GARLAND, PICKED HIM, IS THAT HE WANTED PICKED HIM, IS THAT HE WANTED SOMEONE WHO WAS ABOVE REPROACH, SOMEONE WHO WAS ABOVE REPROACH, SOMEONE WHO WOULD BE SEEN SOMEONE WHO WOULD BE SEEN AS IMPARTIAL BUT ALSO A PERSON AS IMPARTIAL BUT ALSO A PERSON WHO WOULD BE SEEN AS LIKELY WHO WOULD BE SEEN AS LIKELY TO BE VERY AGGRESSIVE. TO BE VERY AGGRESSIVE. SO THAT IS HIS BACKGROUND. SO THAT IS HIS BACKGROUND. AGAIN, HE'S WORKED IN RELATIVE AGAIN, HE'S WORKED IN RELATIVE SILENCE. SILENCE. AGAIN, THIS IS THE FIRST AGAIN, THIS IS THE FIRST GLIMPSE INTO EXACTLY HE AND GLIMPSE INTO EXACTLY HE AND HIS INVESTIGATORS HAVE BEEN UP HIS INVESTIGATORS HAVE BEEN UP TO. TO. >> AND PETER, WE KNOW IF >> AND PETER, WE KNOW IF INVESTIGATORS HAVE SIGNALED INVESTIGATORS HAVE SIGNALED WHETHER THEIR PROBE MIGHT NOW WHETHER THEIR PROBE MIGHT NOW RESULT IN CRIMINAL CHARGES RESULT IN CRIMINAL CHARGES AT ALL. AT ALL. >> WELL, THE WITNESSES, >> WELL, THE WITNESSES, YOU KNOW, AND SOURCES THAT WE YOU KNOW, AND SOURCES THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO INTERACT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO INTERACT WITH ARE GIVING THE IMPRESSION WITH ARE GIVING THE IMPRESSION AT THIS POINT IT LOOKS AT THIS POINT IT LOOKS MORE LIKE A MISTAKE THAN MORE LIKE A MISTAKE THAN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. BUT THAT SAID, WE DON'T HAVE BUT THAT SAID, WE DON'T HAVE ANY INDICATION THAT THIS ANY INDICATION THAT THIS INVESTIGATION IS WRAPPING UP INVESTIGATION IS WRAPPING UP AND IN FACT, IT IS ONGOING. AND IN FACT, IT IS ONGOING. SO TO BE DETERMINED. SO TO BE DETERMINED. >> AND OF COURSE, ALL THIS >> AND OF COURSE, ALL THIS IS HAPPENING AS FORMER IS HAPPENING AS FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP ALSO FACING PRESIDENT TRUMP ALSO FACING A SEPARATE INVESTIGATION INTO A SEPARATE INVESTIGATION INTO HIS HANDLING OF CLASSIFIED HIS HANDLING OF CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS. DOCUMENTS. YOU ALSO JUST HEARD YOU ALSO JUST HEARD AARON KATERSKY THERE AARON KATERSKY THERE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH HIM ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH HIM IN NEW YORK AS WELL. IN NEW YORK AS WELL. SO WHAT IS THE LATEST, THOUGH, SO WHAT IS THE LATEST, THOUGH, FOR TRUMP IN THE CLASSIFIED FOR TRUMP IN THE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS CASE? DOCUMENTS CASE? >> WELL, THE SPECIAL COUNSEL, >> WELL, THE SPECIAL COUNSEL, JACK SMITH, IN THAT CASE JACK SMITH, IN THAT CASE IS BEING EXTREMELY AGGRESSIVE, IS BEING EXTREMELY AGGRESSIVE, PUSHING FORWARD IN THE. PUSHING FORWARD IN THE. WE KNOW THEY'VE INDICTED WE KNOW THEY'VE INDICTED A NUMBER OF TRUMP ASSOCIATES A NUMBER OF TRUMP ASSOCIATES IN CONNECTION WITH THAT CASE. IN CONNECTION WITH THAT CASE. AND AGAIN, AS FAR AS MY AND AGAIN, AS FAR AS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'RE UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'RE BUILDING THE CASE, PREPARING BUILDING THE CASE, PREPARING FOR TRIAL, TO LAY OUT A CASE. FOR TRIAL, TO LAY OUT A CASE. FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP TOOK FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP TOOK THOSE DOCUMENTS TO MAR-A-LAGO, THOSE DOCUMENTS TO MAR-A-LAGO, THEN ENGAGED IN THE EFFORT THEN ENGAGED IN THE EFFORT TO KEEP THEM OUT OF THE HANDS TO KEEP THEM OUT OF THE HANDS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, INCLUDING THE FBI, AFTER HE HAD INCLUDING THE FBI, AFTER HE HAD A FEDERAL SUBPOENA. A FEDERAL SUBPOENA.

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