Transcript for Moms open up about dealing with postpartum depression and psychosis
OFTEN CONSIDERED THE BEST NEWS,
BUT FOR MANY WOMEN, THAT BUNDLE
BUT FOR MANY WOMEN, THAT BUNDLE
OF JOY CAN LEAD TO A BATTLE WITH
OF JOY CAN LEAD TO A BATTLE WITH
DEPRESSION OR OTHER MENTAL
DEPRESSION OR OTHER MENTAL
HEALTH STRUGGLES. ABC'S JANE
HEALTH STRUGGLES. ABC'S JANE
NORMAN TAKES A CLOSER LOOK AT
NORMAN TAKES A CLOSER LOOK AT
THE POSTPARTUM STRUGGLES THAT SO
THE POSTPARTUM STRUGGLES THAT SO
MANY MOTHERS FACE FOR THE LATEST
MANY MOTHERS FACE FOR THE LATEST
INSTALLMENT IN OUR MENTAL HEALTH
INSTALLMENT IN OUR MENTAL HEALTH
SERIES, STATE OF MIND. WHERE'S
SERIES, STATE OF MIND. WHERE'S
THE PARK ONES? THE MOTHER OF A
THE PARK ONES? THE MOTHER OF A
PRECOCIOUS THREE YEAR OLD. I
PRECOCIOUS THREE YEAR OLD. I
THOUGHT IT WAS ON THIS SIDE. NO,
THOUGHT IT WAS ON THIS SIDE. NO,
NO. BACK UP THE OTHER A MOM TO A
NO. BACK UP THE OTHER A MOM TO A
LOVING TODDLER. YEAH. BOTH
LOVING TODDLER. YEAH. BOTH
LIVING DIFFERENT LIFESTYLES.
LIVING DIFFERENT LIFESTYLES.
GRETCHEN AND CALIFORNIA, AYANNA
GRETCHEN AND CALIFORNIA, AYANNA
AND FLORIDA SHARE ONE COMMON
AND FLORIDA SHARE ONE COMMON
STRUGGLE THAT EVERY YEAR ALSO
STRUGGLE THAT EVERY YEAR ALSO
AFFECTS MILLIONS OF OTHER NEW
AFFECTS MILLIONS OF OTHER NEW
MOMS. PREGNANCY RELATED DISORDER
MOMS. PREGNANCY RELATED DISORDER
, LIKE POSTPARTUM DEPRESSION. I
, LIKE POSTPARTUM DEPRESSION. I
PRAYED FOR HER AND I ASKED FOR
PRAYED FOR HER AND I ASKED FOR
HER FOR SO MANY YEARS, BUT I
HER FOR SO MANY YEARS, BUT I
DIDN'T FEEL CONNECTED TO HER THE
DIDN'T FEEL CONNECTED TO HER THE
WAY THAT I WANTED TO, AND THAT
WAY THAT I WANTED TO, AND THAT
MADE ME FEEL GUILT AND
MADE ME FEEL GUILT AND
POSTPARTUM PSYCHOSIS. I HEARD
POSTPARTUM PSYCHOSIS. I HEARD
FROM GOD MY DAUGHTER WAS THE
FROM GOD MY DAUGHTER WAS THE
SECOND COMING OF JESUS AND THAT
SECOND COMING OF JESUS AND THAT
I WAS GOING TO REWRITE THE
I WAS GOING TO REWRITE THE
BIBLE. IT JUST WAS LIKE. SO
BIBLE. IT JUST WAS LIKE. SO
BEYOND THE ESTIMATES ARE 15 TO
BEYOND THE ESTIMATES ARE 15 TO
20% OF WOMEN EXPERIENCE
20% OF WOMEN EXPERIENCE
POSTPARTUM DEPRESSION OR A
POSTPARTUM DEPRESSION OR A
PREGNANCY RELATED MOOD DISORDER
PREGNANCY RELATED MOOD DISORDER
THAT'S DIAGNOSED, CONFIRMED
THAT'S DIAGNOSED, CONFIRMED
REPORTED CASES. THE TRUE NUMBER
REPORTED CASES. THE TRUE NUMBER
IS LIKELY MUCH HIGHER. NEWPORT
IS LIKELY MUCH HIGHER. NEWPORT
BEACH, CALIFORNIA, HOME TO REAL
BEACH, CALIFORNIA, HOME TO REAL
HOUSEWIVES OF ORANGE COUNTY'S
HOUSEWIVES OF ORANGE COUNTY'S
GRETCHEN ROSSI. WHEN THE GOING
GRETCHEN ROSSI. WHEN THE GOING
GETS TOUGH, I JUST GET STRONGER
GETS TOUGH, I JUST GET STRONGER
AND STRONGER. AND HER PARTNER,
AND STRONGER. AND HER PARTNER,
SLADE SMILEY, I HOPE YOU'LL
SLADE SMILEY, I HOPE YOU'LL
MARRY ME. AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN
MARRY ME. AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN
HAVE A WONDERFUL, FABULOUS MAYBE
HAVE A WONDERFUL, FABULOUS MAYBE
NOT PERFECT, BUT HAPPY LIFE
NOT PERFECT, BUT HAPPY LIFE
TOGETHER. THE COUPLE UNDERWENT
TOGETHER. THE COUPLE UNDERWENT
IVF FOR FOUR AND A HALF YEARS,
IVF FOR FOUR AND A HALF YEARS,
HOPING TO HAVE CHILDREN FINALLY
HOPING TO HAVE CHILDREN FINALLY
RECEIVING THE NEWS THEY'D BEEN
RECEIVING THE NEWS THEY'D BEEN
WAITING FOR. WELL, ARE YOU
WAITING FOR. WELL, ARE YOU
SITTING DOWN? YEAH, BECAUSE YOU
SITTING DOWN? YEAH, BECAUSE YOU
ARE PREGNANT. OH, MY GOD. I WENT
ARE PREGNANT. OH, MY GOD. I WENT
INTO IT WITH SUCH A POSITIVE
INTO IT WITH SUCH A POSITIVE
MINDSET. I HAD THE BEST
MINDSET. I HAD THE BEST
PREGNANCY I'VE NEVER FELT MORE
PREGNANCY I'VE NEVER FELT MORE
BEAUTIFUL OR MORE CONFIDENT EVER
BEAUTIFUL OR MORE CONFIDENT EVER
IN MY LIFE. GRETCHEN EVENTUALLY
IN MY LIFE. GRETCHEN EVENTUALLY
GAVE BIRTH TO A HEALTHY DAUGHTER
GAVE BIRTH TO A HEALTHY DAUGHTER
, SKYLAR GRAY. SMILEY BUT
, SKYLAR GRAY. SMILEY BUT
IMMEDIATELY AFTERWARDS, A
IMMEDIATELY AFTERWARDS, A
DRASTIC TURNING POINT WHEN THEY
DRASTIC TURNING POINT WHEN THEY
FIRST HANDED ME THE BABY, I
FIRST HANDED ME THE BABY, I
THINK I HAD THIS VISION OF THIS,
THINK I HAD THIS VISION OF THIS,
YOU KNOW, ANGELIC, LIKE, YOU
YOU KNOW, ANGELIC, LIKE, YOU
KNOW, OH, LIKE THE SKY PARTS.
KNOW, OH, LIKE THE SKY PARTS.
AND THIS RAY OF SUNSHINE COMES
AND THIS RAY OF SUNSHINE COMES
THROUGH. I JUST REMEMBER
THROUGH. I JUST REMEMBER
IMMEDIATELY FEELING A DESCANT
IMMEDIATELY FEELING A DESCANT
ACT. SOMETHING FELT OFF TO ME
ACT. SOMETHING FELT OFF TO ME
THOUGH. GRETCHEN ALWAYS
THOUGH. GRETCHEN ALWAYS
PHYSICALLY CARED FOR SKYLER. SHE
PHYSICALLY CARED FOR SKYLER. SHE
SAYS SHE STRUGGLED WITH
SAYS SHE STRUGGLED WITH
CONNECTING WITH HER DAUGHTER
CONNECTING WITH HER DAUGHTER
EMOTIONALLY. I CRIED A LOT. I
EMOTIONALLY. I CRIED A LOT. I
WAS UNBELIEVABLY EXHAUSTED. AND
WAS UNBELIEVABLY EXHAUSTED. AND
I REMEMBER MY MOOD SWINGS WENT
I REMEMBER MY MOOD SWINGS WENT
FROM JUST A REALLY FEELING HIGH
FROM JUST A REALLY FEELING HIGH
AND HAPPY AND LIKE, I'M KILLING
AND HAPPY AND LIKE, I'M KILLING
THE MOM GAME TO I JUST FELT LIKE
THE MOM GAME TO I JUST FELT LIKE
A COMPLETE AND TOTAL FAILURE AND
A COMPLETE AND TOTAL FAILURE AND
THAT I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING
THAT I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING
RIGHT. NOT THE MOST OBVIOUS
RIGHT. NOT THE MOST OBVIOUS
SYMPTOM IS TEARFULNESS, BUT
SYMPTOM IS TEARFULNESS, BUT
THERE COULD BE FEELINGS OF FEAR,
THERE COULD BE FEELINGS OF FEAR,
FEELINGS OF SADNESS, FEELINGS OF
FEELINGS OF SADNESS, FEELINGS OF
GUILT, DETACHMENT FROM THAT
GUILT, DETACHMENT FROM THAT
NEWBORN IN NOT WANTING TO CARE
NEWBORN IN NOT WANTING TO CARE
FOR THE INFANT OR NEWBORN OR
FOR THE INFANT OR NEWBORN OR
OTHER CHILDREN. MY GYNECOLOGIST
OTHER CHILDREN. MY GYNECOLOGIST
CALLED ME AND SHE'S LIKE, WE
CALLED ME AND SHE'S LIKE, WE
NEED TO TALK. AND I THINK THAT
NEED TO TALK. AND I THINK THAT
YOU DON'T REALIZE THAT YOU HAVE
YOU DON'T REALIZE THAT YOU HAVE
REALLY BAD POSTPARTUM DEPRESSION
REALLY BAD POSTPARTUM DEPRESSION
. AND LOOK, I'M GOING TO CRY
. AND LOOK, I'M GOING TO CRY
LIKE IT MAKES ME SAD. I FELT
LIKE IT MAKES ME SAD. I FELT
LIKE I WAS FAILING MY DAUGHTER
LIKE I WAS FAILING MY DAUGHTER
AND I DIDN'T WANT TO LET HER
AND I DIDN'T WANT TO LET HER
DOWN. I KIND OF REMEMBER THAT
DOWN. I KIND OF REMEMBER THAT
FOR ME, I FELT A LITTLE BIT OF
FOR ME, I FELT A LITTLE BIT OF
RELIEF FINALLY KNOWING WHAT WAS
RELIEF FINALLY KNOWING WHAT WAS
HAPPENING. I COULD START LOOKING
HAPPENING. I COULD START LOOKING
TO FINDING A SOLUTION. I NO
TO FINDING A SOLUTION. I NO
LONGER FELT AS MUCH GUILT. IT
LONGER FELT AS MUCH GUILT. IT
WAS MORE MY BODY TRULY HAD THIS
WAS MORE MY BODY TRULY HAD THIS
CHEMICAL IMBALANCE THAT I COULD
CHEMICAL IMBALANCE THAT I COULD
NOT CONTROL. IN RECENT YEARS,
NOT CONTROL. IN RECENT YEARS,
CELEBRITY MOMS HAVE SHARED THEIR
CELEBRITY MOMS HAVE SHARED THEIR
OWN STORIES OF POSTPARTUM
OWN STORIES OF POSTPARTUM
DEPRESSION, HELPING NORMALIZE
DEPRESSION, HELPING NORMALIZE
THE ISSUE. AMONG THE FIRST TO
THE ISSUE. AMONG THE FIRST TO
SPEAK OUT BACK IN 2005 WAS
SPEAK OUT BACK IN 2005 WAS
BROOKE SHIELDS ON OPRAH. I AM SO
BROOKE SHIELDS ON OPRAH. I AM SO
, SO THANKFUL THAT THAT I DIDN'T
, SO THANKFUL THAT THAT I DIDN'T
HAVE THE DESIRE TO HURT HER, BUT
HAVE THE DESIRE TO HURT HER, BUT
I CERTAINLY DIDN'T HAVE THE
I CERTAINLY DIDN'T HAVE THE
DESIRE TO HELP HER EITHER. I
DESIRE TO HELP HER EITHER. I
WANTED TO HURT MYSELF. I WANTED
WANTED TO HURT MYSELF. I WANTED
TO OBLITERATE MYSELF AND THEN I
TO OBLITERATE MYSELF AND THEN I
WOULD HAVE VISIONS OF HER OR
WOULD HAVE VISIONS OF HER OR
THIS LITTLE BODY HITTING THE
THIS LITTLE BODY HITTING THE
WALL AND SLIDING DOWN. I WASN'T
WALL AND SLIDING DOWN. I WASN'T
THE ONE THROWING HER, BUT I SAW
THE ONE THROWING HER, BUT I SAW
IT. IT WAS LIKE AN ACTION MOVIE.
IT. IT WAS LIKE AN ACTION MOVIE.
A RECENT STUDY SHOWS THE NUMBER
A RECENT STUDY SHOWS THE NUMBER
OF MOMS DIAGNOSED CLOSED WITH
OF MOMS DIAGNOSED CLOSED WITH
POSTPARTUM DEPRESSION HAS ALMOST
POSTPARTUM DEPRESSION HAS ALMOST
DOUBLED IN THE PAST TEN YEARS.
DOUBLED IN THE PAST TEN YEARS.
EXPERTS SAY TALK THERAPY, ALONG
EXPERTS SAY TALK THERAPY, ALONG
WITH PRESCRIPTION
WITH PRESCRIPTION
ANTIDEPRESSANTS, CAN HELP,
ANTIDEPRESSANTS, CAN HELP,
USUALLY WITHIN MONTHS. WE'RE
USUALLY WITHIN MONTHS. WE'RE
GOING TO TURN NOW TO THE NEW
GOING TO TURN NOW TO THE NEW
FAST ACTING POSTPARTUM PILL
FAST ACTING POSTPARTUM PILL
UNDER FDA CONSIDERATION, NEW
UNDER FDA CONSIDERATION, NEW
HOPE IS ALSO ON THE HORIZON IN
HOPE IS ALSO ON THE HORIZON IN
THE FIRST OF ITS KIND PILL TO
THE FIRST OF ITS KIND PILL TO
SPECIFIC TREAT POSTPARTUM
SPECIFIC TREAT POSTPARTUM
DEPRESSION, ZURANOLONE COULD BE
DEPRESSION, ZURANOLONE COULD BE
APPROVED BY THE FDA THIS SUMMER
APPROVED BY THE FDA THIS SUMMER
IF APPROVED, THIS PILL COULD
IF APPROVED, THIS PILL COULD
HELP MILLIONS OF WOMEN LIKE
HELP MILLIONS OF WOMEN LIKE
GRETCHEN. I REMEMBER STARING OUT
GRETCHEN. I REMEMBER STARING OUT
THE WINDOW AND JUST TEARS
THE WINDOW AND JUST TEARS
ROLLING DOWN MY EYES AS I'M
ROLLING DOWN MY EYES AS I'M
BREASTFEEDING HER. I WAS TRYING
BREASTFEEDING HER. I WAS TRYING
, TRAPPED INSIDE MY OWN HOME,
, TRAPPED INSIDE MY OWN HOME,
HAVING TO TAKE CARE OF MY CHILD
HAVING TO TAKE CARE OF MY CHILD
. AND I REMEMBER HAVING SO MUCH
. AND I REMEMBER HAVING SO MUCH
GUILT AROUND HAVING THOSE
GUILT AROUND HAVING THOSE
FEELINGS. PREGNANCY RELATED
FEELINGS. PREGNANCY RELATED
DISORDERS CAN HAVE A RIPPLE
DISORDERS CAN HAVE A RIPPLE
EFFECT BEYOND JUST THE MOTHER. I
EFFECT BEYOND JUST THE MOTHER. I
WAS SO CONCERNED FOR HER MENTAL
WAS SO CONCERNED FOR HER MENTAL
HEALTH. IT WAS SCARY BECAUSE IS
HEALTH. IT WAS SCARY BECAUSE IS
I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE
I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE
MEDICAL CONDITION. I CAN'T
MEDICAL CONDITION. I CAN'T
CHANGE THAT. SO I JUST DID
CHANGE THAT. SO I JUST DID
EVERYTHING I POSSIBLY COULD TO
EVERYTHING I POSSIBLY COULD TO
TAKE AS MUCH PRESSURE OFF OF HER
TAKE AS MUCH PRESSURE OFF OF HER
AS I COULD. AT FIRST, GRETCHEN
AS I COULD. AT FIRST, GRETCHEN
DECIDED TO RESIST PRESCRIPTION
DECIDED TO RESIST PRESCRIPTION
DRUGS. TURNING TO HOMEOPATHIC
DRUGS. TURNING TO HOMEOPATHIC
REMEDIES AND CBD. IT TOOK TWO
REMEDIES AND CBD. IT TOOK TWO
THREE YEARS TILL I ACTUALLY FELT
THREE YEARS TILL I ACTUALLY FELT
LIKE MYSELF. NOW THAT MIGHT BE
LIKE MYSELF. NOW THAT MIGHT BE
TOTALLY DUE TO THE ROUTE THAT I
TOTALLY DUE TO THE ROUTE THAT I
TOOK. MAYBE TAKING THE
TOOK. MAYBE TAKING THE
PHARMACEUTICAL DRUGS WOULD HAVE
PHARMACEUTICAL DRUGS WOULD HAVE
GOTTEN ME BACK TO WHERE I FELT
GOTTEN ME BACK TO WHERE I FELT
LIKE MYSELF AGAIN MUCH QUICKER
LIKE MYSELF AGAIN MUCH QUICKER
FOR AS APPEALING AS SOMETHING
FOR AS APPEALING AS SOMETHING
NATURAL IS, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT
NATURAL IS, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT
THE EVIDENCE BASED MEDICINE.
THE EVIDENCE BASED MEDICINE.
THERE AND MAKE THAT DECISION
THERE AND MAKE THAT DECISION
RISK VERSUS BENEFIT AND
RISK VERSUS BENEFIT AND
UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT'S AT
UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT'S AT
STAKE. WHILE MILLIONS OF MOMS
STAKE. WHILE MILLIONS OF MOMS
HAVE STRUGGLED WITH POSTPARTUM
HAVE STRUGGLED WITH POSTPARTUM
DEPRESSION LIKE GRETCHEN,
DEPRESSION LIKE GRETCHEN,
MILLIONS MORE HAVE PREGNANCY
MILLIONS MORE HAVE PREGNANCY
RELATED ANXIETY AND A FRACTION
RELATED ANXIETY AND A FRACTION
HAVE SOMETHING MUCH MORE SEVERE
HAVE SOMETHING MUCH MORE SEVERE
AND POTENTIALLY DANGER WORSE
AND POTENTIALLY DANGER WORSE
POSTPARTUM PSYCHOSIS IS I KIND
POSTPARTUM PSYCHOSIS IS I KIND
OF ALWAYS KNEW THAT I WANTED
OF ALWAYS KNEW THAT I WANTED
KIDS. IT WAS SOMETHING ON THE
KIDS. IT WAS SOMETHING ON THE
HORIZON FOR US. 29 YEAR OLD
HORIZON FOR US. 29 YEAR OLD
AYANNA LAGE AND HER HUSBAND,
AYANNA LAGE AND HER HUSBAND,
WAGNER, WERE COLLEGE SWEETHEARTS
WAGNER, WERE COLLEGE SWEETHEARTS
AND WELCOMED THEIR DAUGHTER NORA
AND WELCOMED THEIR DAUGHTER NORA
IN 2020. I FELT AMAZING, LIKE I
IN 2020. I FELT AMAZING, LIKE I
WAS MEANT TO BE A MOTHER ALL
WAS MEANT TO BE A MOTHER ALL
ALONG BECAUSE IT HAD JUST
ALONG BECAUSE IT HAD JUST
AWAKENED SOMETHING IN ME. WAS
AWAKENED SOMETHING IN ME. WAS
THERE A POINT WHEN THAT CHANGED?
THERE A POINT WHEN THAT CHANGED?
YEAH YES. MY MOOD WENT FROM
YEAH YES. MY MOOD WENT FROM
BEING LIKE, DELIRIOUSLY HAPPY
BEING LIKE, DELIRIOUSLY HAPPY
AND FEELING JUST SO GREAT AT
AND FEELING JUST SO GREAT AT
EVERYTHING THING TO NOT BEING
EVERYTHING THING TO NOT BEING
ABLE TO MOVE BECAUSE I WAS JUST
ABLE TO MOVE BECAUSE I WAS JUST
LIKE, SO SAD AND I DIDN'T KNOW
LIKE, SO SAD AND I DIDN'T KNOW
WHY, AYANNA SAYS. IN THE SPAN OF
WHY, AYANNA SAYS. IN THE SPAN OF
EIGHT DAYS, HER PARANOIA SET IN.
EIGHT DAYS, HER PARANOIA SET IN.
I WOKE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
I WOKE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
NIGHT AND I HAD THIS LIKE JUST
NIGHT AND I HAD THIS LIKE JUST
OVERWHELMING FEAR, THIS GUT
OVERWHELMING FEAR, THIS GUT
REALIZATION THAT I COULDN'T
REALIZATION THAT I COULDN'T
TRUST MY HUSBAND OR MY PARENTS
TRUST MY HUSBAND OR MY PARENTS
WHO WERE THERE TO HELP AROUND MY
WHO WERE THERE TO HELP AROUND MY
DAUGHTER. THE TAMPA BASED WRITER
DAUGHTER. THE TAMPA BASED WRITER
AND BLOGGER SAYS SHE AND HER
AND BLOGGER SAYS SHE AND HER
FAMILY CAME TO THE REALIZATION
FAMILY CAME TO THE REALIZATION
THAT SOMETHING WAS VERY WRONG.
THAT SOMETHING WAS VERY WRONG.
PROBABLY AROUND EIGHT DAYS AFTER
PROBABLY AROUND EIGHT DAYS AFTER
NORA WAS BORN, I STARTED TO HEAR
NORA WAS BORN, I STARTED TO HEAR
MESSAGES FROM GOD AND THAT, I
MESSAGES FROM GOD AND THAT, I
THINK, WAS KIND OF I DON'T WANT
THINK, WAS KIND OF I DON'T WANT
TO SAY THE BEGINNING OF THE END,
TO SAY THE BEGINNING OF THE END,
BUT THE FIRST REAL SIGN THAT I
BUT THE FIRST REAL SIGN THAT I
MAY NEED INTENSIVE INPATIENT
MAY NEED INTENSIVE INPATIENT
TREATMENT. I SAID, I'M GOING TO
TREATMENT. I SAID, I'M GOING TO
KILL MYSELF IF YOU DON'T TAKE ME
KILL MYSELF IF YOU DON'T TAKE ME
TO THE HOSPITAL. WHEN SHE SAID
TO THE HOSPITAL. WHEN SHE SAID
THAT AND THAT IT WAS JUST LIKE,
THAT AND THAT IT WAS JUST LIKE,
THIS IS IT. I REMEMBER BREAKING
THIS IS IT. I REMEMBER BREAKING
DOWN JUST CRYING LIKE THIS. THIS
DOWN JUST CRYING LIKE THIS. THIS
IS AWFUL. LIKE, THIS IS THE
IS AWFUL. LIKE, THIS IS THE
WORST DECISION I'VE EVER HAD TO
WORST DECISION I'VE EVER HAD TO
MAKE. AYANNA SPENT 17 DAYS IN
MAKE. AYANNA SPENT 17 DAYS IN
THE HOSPITAL. ONCE YOU GOT HOME
THE HOSPITAL. ONCE YOU GOT HOME
AND REALIZING THAT OF YOUR
AND REALIZING THAT OF YOUR
DAUGHTER'S FIRST MONTH, YOU'D
DAUGHTER'S FIRST MONTH, YOU'D
MISSED 17 DAYS THAT YOU WERE
MISSED 17 DAYS THAT YOU WERE
NEVER GOING TO GET BACK. IT FELT
NEVER GOING TO GET BACK. IT FELT
VERY UNFAIR. WHEN I GOT HOME, I
VERY UNFAIR. WHEN I GOT HOME, I
WAS STILL SO HIGHLY MEDICATED
WAS STILL SO HIGHLY MEDICATED
THAT I WAS SLEEPING EVEN ONCE I
THAT I WAS SLEEPING EVEN ONCE I
GOT HOME, I STILL WAS MISSING SO
GOT HOME, I STILL WAS MISSING SO
MUCH. I HAD TO JUST MAKE PEACE
MUCH. I HAD TO JUST MAKE PEACE
WITH IT AND BE GRATEFUL THAT I
WITH IT AND BE GRATEFUL THAT I
STILL HAVE OF THE REST OF HER
STILL HAVE OF THE REST OF HER
LIFE TO MAKE MEMORIES WITH HER
LIFE TO MAKE MEMORIES WITH HER
POSTPARTUM PSYCHOSIS. WE DON'T
POSTPARTUM PSYCHOSIS. WE DON'T
HEAR ABOUT THAT OFTEN BECAUSE
HEAR ABOUT THAT OFTEN BECAUSE
IT'S SO RARE. IT'S MORE 1 OR 2
IT'S SO RARE. IT'S MORE 1 OR 2
WOMEN OUT OF A THOUSAND. DR.
WOMEN OUT OF A THOUSAND. DR.
DEBORAH KNUTSON GONZALEZ IS A
DEBORAH KNUTSON GONZALEZ IS A
REPRODUCTIVE PSYCHIATRIST. SHE
REPRODUCTIVE PSYCHIATRIST. SHE
SAYS SYMPTOMS FOR POSTPARTUM
SAYS SYMPTOMS FOR POSTPARTUM
PSYCHOSIS INCLUDE LOSING TOUCH
PSYCHOSIS INCLUDE LOSING TOUCH
WITH REALITY IN SOME WAY. IT
WITH REALITY IN SOME WAY. IT
MIGHT BE THAT YOU'RE
MIGHT BE THAT YOU'RE
HALLUCINATING, HEAR VOICES OR
HALLUCINATING, HEAR VOICES OR
PEOPLE TELLING YOU TO DO THINGS.
PEOPLE TELLING YOU TO DO THINGS.
IT MIGHT BE THEY'RE SEEING
IT MIGHT BE THEY'RE SEEING
THINGS THAT OTHER PEOPLE CAN'T
THINGS THAT OTHER PEOPLE CAN'T
SEE. EXPERTS SAY OTHER WARNING
SEE. EXPERTS SAY OTHER WARNING
SIGNS CAN INCLUDE CONFUSION,
SIGNS CAN INCLUDE CONFUSION,
DELUSIONS, CHANGE IN SLEEP,
DELUSIONS, CHANGE IN SLEEP,
PATTERN AND THOUGHTS OF
PATTERN AND THOUGHTS OF
SELF-HARM OR OTHERS, AND RAPID
SELF-HARM OR OTHERS, AND RAPID
MOOD SWINGS. AYANA'S OWN PRIOR
MOOD SWINGS. AYANA'S OWN PRIOR
HISTORY PUT HER AT A HIGHER RISK
HISTORY PUT HER AT A HIGHER RISK
. BUT DESPITE THE SEVERITY OF
. BUT DESPITE THE SEVERITY OF
POST PARTUM PSYCHOSIS, IT IS
POST PARTUM PSYCHOSIS, IT IS
TREATABLE. THINGS WILL GET
TREATABLE. THINGS WILL GET
BETTER. THE WOMAN DOES NOT HAVE
BETTER. THE WOMAN DOES NOT HAVE
TO SUFFER FOR INDEFINITELY
TO SUFFER FOR INDEFINITELY
WITHOUT TREATMENT AND WITHOUT
WITHOUT TREATMENT AND WITHOUT
SUPPORT. BUT THE KEY IS TAKING
SUPPORT. BUT THE KEY IS TAKING
THAT FIRST STEP IN ASKING FOR
THAT FIRST STEP IN ASKING FOR
HELP AND THEN GETTING HELP.
HELP AND THEN GETTING HELP.
SLOWLY BUT SURELY, MOST WOMEN
SLOWLY BUT SURELY, MOST WOMEN
RETURN TO THEIR THE SAME LEVEL
RETURN TO THEIR THE SAME LEVEL
OF FUNCTION AT SOME POINT IN THE
OF FUNCTION AT SOME POINT IN THE
JOB. NORA IS NOW TWO YEARS OLD,
JOB. NORA IS NOW TWO YEARS OLD,
AND THE LADIES SAY THEY ARE
AND THE LADIES SAY THEY ARE
GRATEFUL TO BE ON THE OTHER SIDE
GRATEFUL TO BE ON THE OTHER SIDE
OF SUCH A HARROWING EXPERIENCE.
OF SUCH A HARROWING EXPERIENCE.
FOR NOW, MY LIFE IS SO FULL AND
FOR NOW, MY LIFE IS SO FULL AND
MY DAUGHTER IS DOING SO WELL AND
MY DAUGHTER IS DOING SO WELL AND
WE HAVE SUCH. I'M JUST SO
WE HAVE SUCH. I'M JUST SO
GRATEFUL FOR EVERYTHING. SO I
GRATEFUL FOR EVERYTHING. SO I
THINK I'M NOW ABLE TO LOOK AT IT
THINK I'M NOW ABLE TO LOOK AT IT
LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS HOW FAR I'VE
LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS HOW FAR I'VE
COME, RATHER THAN ALL OF MY
COME, RATHER THAN ALL OF MY
EMOTIONS BEING GRIEVING OVER
EMOTIONS BEING GRIEVING OVER
WHAT I LOST. IF I SHARE THIS
WHAT I LOST. IF I SHARE THIS
STORY, THERE'S A CHANCE. IT'S
STORY, THERE'S A CHANCE. IT'S
ONE THAT SOMEONE WHO HAD HAD THE
ONE THAT SOMEONE WHO HAD HAD THE
SAME EXPERIENCE WILL FEEL LESS
SAME EXPERIENCE WILL FEEL LESS
LONELY. MORE IMPORTANTLY, FOR ME
LONELY. MORE IMPORTANTLY, FOR ME
, THAT SOMEONE MAY SEE THE
, THAT SOMEONE MAY SEE THE
WARNING SIGNS. WHAT DO YOU THINK
WARNING SIGNS. WHAT DO YOU THINK
THAT FAMILY OR SPOUSES OF
THAT FAMILY OR SPOUSES OF
SOMEONE WHO IS GOING THROUGH
SOMEONE WHO IS GOING THROUGH
THIS HAS GONE THROUGH THIS,
THIS HAS GONE THROUGH THIS,
SHOULD KNOW IF YOU STICK BY THAT
SHOULD KNOW IF YOU STICK BY THAT
PERSON, IF YOU SHOW THEM THE
PERSON, IF YOU SHOW THEM THE
LOVE THAT THEY NEED IN THAT TIME
LOVE THAT THEY NEED IN THAT TIME
, THE THINGS WILL GET BETTER IN
, THE THINGS WILL GET BETTER IN
THE END. SHE'S SHE'S HERSELF
THE END. SHE'S SHE'S HERSELF
AGAIN. SHE'S FULFILLED. SHE'S
AGAIN. SHE'S FULFILLED. SHE'S
THE BEST MOTHER I'VE EVER SEEN.
THE BEST MOTHER I'VE EVER SEEN.
SO THIS IS THE SPOT THAT I WOULD
SO THIS IS THE SPOT THAT I WOULD
ALWAYS COME DOWN TO. AND I WOULD
ALWAYS COME DOWN TO. AND I WOULD
SIT HERE AND I WOULD LOOK OUT AT
SIT HERE AND I WOULD LOOK OUT AT
THE WATER AND I WOULD HELP CLEAR
THE WATER AND I WOULD HELP CLEAR
MY MIND FROM REAL HOUSEWIVES TO
MY MIND FROM REAL HOUSEWIVES TO
REAL LIFE, GRETCHEN IS EAGER TO
REAL LIFE, GRETCHEN IS EAGER TO
HELP OTHERS. I WANT WOMEN OUT
HELP OTHERS. I WANT WOMEN OUT
THERE TO KNOW THAT LIKE A YOU'RE
THERE TO KNOW THAT LIKE A YOU'RE
NOT ALONE, BUT B, WE GOT TO STOP
NOT ALONE, BUT B, WE GOT TO STOP
PUTTING THIS MUCH PRESSURE ON
PUTTING THIS MUCH PRESSURE ON
OURSELVES. WE GOT TO BE ABLE TO
OURSELVES. WE GOT TO BE ABLE TO
OPEN UP. WE GOT TO BE ABLE TO
OPEN UP. WE GOT TO BE ABLE TO
TALK AND SAY, I'M STRUGGLING OR
TALK AND SAY, I'M STRUGGLING OR
I NEED HELP. LET'S HAVE A BETTER
I NEED HELP. LET'S HAVE A BETTER
OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH WHAT IT
OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH WHAT IT
MEANS TO BE A MOM AND LET'S GET
MEANS TO BE A MOM AND LET'S GET
REAL ABOUT THAT. OUR THANKS TO
REAL ABOUT THAT. OUR THANKS TO
JENNY. AND IF YOU THINK YOU OR
JENNY. AND IF YOU THINK YOU OR
SOMEONE YOU KNOW IS EXPERIENCING
SOMEONE YOU KNOW IS EXPERIENCING
AN URGENT MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS,
AN URGENT MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS,
CALL OR TEXT THE SUICIDE CRISIS.
CALL OR TEXT THE SUICIDE CRISIS.
LIFELINE
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