New wave of fighting between Israel and Hamas forcing civilians into South Gaza

Top executive with Doctors Without Borders, Avril Benoit, joins the "The Big Story" to discuss what is happening on the ground amid mass evacuations.
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Transcript for New wave of fighting between Israel and Hamas forcing civilians into South Gaza
AND CAN HE CHANGE THEIR MINDS? BUT WE BEGIN HERE WITH BIG BUT WE BEGIN HERE WITH BIG STORY, OF COURSE. STORY, OF COURSE. GAZA SEEING ITS HEAVIEST GAZA SEEING ITS HEAVIEST BOMBARDMENT SINCE THE START OF BOMBARDMENT SINCE THE START OF THE WAR. THE WAR. THE TRUCE EXPIRED. THE TRUCE EXPIRED. HEAVY FIGHTING HAS RESUMED HEAVY FIGHTING HAS RESUMED BETWEEN ISRAEL AND HAMAS. BETWEEN ISRAEL AND HAMAS. AND ISRAEL SAYS IT'S ENTERED AND ISRAEL SAYS IT'S ENTERED WHAT THEY CALL A NEW PHASE WHAT THEY CALL A NEW PHASE OF THIS WAR. OF THIS WAR. THIS IS AS TROOPS PUSH PUSH THIS IS AS TROOPS PUSH PUSH FURTHER SOUTH INTO GAZA. FURTHER SOUTH INTO GAZA. SO LET'S GET AN INSIDE LOOK SO LET'S GET AN INSIDE LOOK THERE ON THE GROUND RIGHT NOW. THERE ON THE GROUND RIGHT NOW. JOINING US IS EXECUTIVE JOINING US IS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, DOCTORS WITHOUT DIRECTOR, DOCTORS WITHOUT BORDERS, ADMIRAL BEN WISE BORDERS, ADMIRAL BEN WISE JOINING US. JOINING US. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE WITH US. BEING HERE WITH US. AND FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO LET AND FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WE HAVE A TEAM THAT IS YOU KNOW WE HAVE A TEAM THAT IS RIGHT THERE NEAR THE GAZA RIGHT THERE NEAR THE GAZA BORDER. BORDER. AND ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE SAYING AND ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE SAYING THEY CAN EVEN FEEL THIS LIKE THEY CAN EVEN FEEL THIS LIKE CONSTANT BOMBARDMENT AND IT'S CONSTANT BOMBARDMENT AND IT'S A BARRAGE OF ARTILLERY FIRE AS A BARRAGE OF ARTILLERY FIRE AS WELL. WELL. SO WHAT CAN YOU TELL US THAT SO WHAT CAN YOU TELL US THAT THE MEDICAL STAFF ALSO SEEING, THE MEDICAL STAFF ALSO SEEING, HEARING AND FEELING AT THIS HEARING AND FEELING AT THIS TIME? TIME? >> WELL, THANKS FOR HAVING ME. >> WELL, THANKS FOR HAVING ME. IT'S BEEN SUCH A DIFFICULT TIME IT'S BEEN SUCH A DIFFICULT TIME . . THE END OF THE TRUCE, DURING THE END OF THE TRUCE, DURING WHICH TIME WE WERE ABLE TO A WHICH TIME WE WERE ABLE TO A BETTER IDEA OF SOME OF THE BETTER IDEA OF SOME OF THE NEEDS OF SOME OF THE GAPS NEEDS OF SOME OF THE GAPS IN MEDICAL SUPPLIES AND THE IN MEDICAL SUPPLIES AND THE DEGREE TO WHICH HOSPITALS WERE DEGREE TO WHICH HOSPITALS WERE ALREADY OVERWHELMED. ALREADY OVERWHELMED. THE END OF THE TRUCE HAS BEEN THE END OF THE TRUCE HAS BEEN DEVASTATING. DEVASTATING. WE HAVE ONE HOSPITAL THAT WE'RE WE HAVE ONE HOSPITAL THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING IN A SPACE OF SUPPORTING IN A SPACE OF 48 HOURS. 48 HOURS. THEY RECEIVED 400 PATIENTS. THEY RECEIVED 400 PATIENTS. THEY ALSO RECEIVED 100 PEOPLE THEY ALSO RECEIVED 100 PEOPLE WHO WERE DEAD ALREADY. WHO WERE DEAD ALREADY. THAT OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE ALSO THAT OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE ALSO PULLING PEOPLE STILL OUT OF THE PULLING PEOPLE STILL OUT OF THE RUBBLE, THE BOMBARDMENTS RUBBLE, THE BOMBARDMENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED NOW SINCE THAT HAVE HAPPENED NOW SINCE THE END OF THE TROOPS HAVE BEEN THE END OF THE TROOPS HAVE BEEN RELENTLESS. RELENTLESS. AND LET'S NOT FORGET THAT THEY AND LET'S NOT FORGET THAT THEY ARE MOSTLY FOCUSED ON KHAN ARE MOSTLY FOCUSED ON KHAN YOUNIS IN AREAS IN THE SOUTH YOUNIS IN AREAS IN THE SOUTH OF GAZA WHERE PEOPLE WERE OF GAZA WHERE PEOPLE WERE ORDERED TO MOVE FOR SAFETY. ORDERED TO MOVE FOR SAFETY. THEY WERE MOVED OUT OF THE THEY WERE MOVED OUT OF THE NORTH. NORTH. SOME OF THEM REMAINED. SOME OF THEM REMAINED. MOST FOLLOWED TO BE EVACUATION MOST FOLLOWED TO BE EVACUATION ORDERS. ORDERS. AND NOW WHAT WE'RE AND NOW WHAT WE'RE SYSTEMATICALLY SEEING, EVEN SYSTEMATICALLY SEEING, EVEN WITH CLINICS THAT WE AS DOCTORS WITH CLINICS THAT WE AS DOCTORS WITHOUT BORDERS ARE SUPPORTING, WITHOUT BORDERS ARE SUPPORTING, THEY BEING TOLD TO EVACUATE. THEY BEING TOLD TO EVACUATE. AND WE JUST LEARNED THAT THE AND WE JUST LEARNED THAT THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION, WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS ONE OF THE FEW WHICH IS ONE OF THE FEW ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAS BEEN ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAS BEEN ABLE TO BRING IN A FEW MEDICAL ABLE TO BRING IN A FEW MEDICAL SUPPLIES, THEY HAVE SUPPLIES, THEY HAVE A WAREHOUSE. A WAREHOUSE. THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN 4 HOURS THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN 4 HOURS TO EVACUATE THAT WAREHOUSE TO EVACUATE THAT WAREHOUSE FACILITY THAT. FACILITY THAT. ITS ONLY PURPOSE IS TO BE A ITS ONLY PURPOSE IS TO BE A STOREHOUSE, A WAREHOUSE FOR STOREHOUSE, A WAREHOUSE FOR MEDICAL EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES. MEDICAL EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES. SO OVERALL, IT'S JUST BEEN SO OVERALL, IT'S JUST BEEN A DEVASTATING TIME SINCE A DEVASTATING TIME SINCE THE END OF THIS TRUCE. THE END OF THIS TRUCE. AND SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE AND SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE W.H.O., THE WORLD HEALTH W.H.O., THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION, SOME KIND ORGANIZATION, SOME KIND OF BUILDING THERE IN GAZA, OF BUILDING THERE IN GAZA, AND THEY'VE BEEN TOLD EVACUATE AND THEY'VE BEEN TOLD EVACUATE AND LEAVE THAT BY THE IDF, AND LEAVE THAT BY THE IDF, THAT'S THE ORDER AND WE HAVE THAT'S THE ORDER AND WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN THESE ORDERS SINCE BEEN GIVEN THESE ORDERS SINCE THE BEGINNING, SINCE THE BEGINNING, SINCE THE ATROCITIES ON OCTOBER 7TH. THE ATROCITIES ON OCTOBER 7TH. OF COURSE, WE KNOW THAT THIS OF COURSE, WE KNOW THAT THIS A CONFLICT IN WHICH NO PLACE A CONFLICT IN WHICH NO PLACE IN IS SAFE. IN IS SAFE. SO WHEN YOU RECEIVE THESE SO WHEN YOU RECEIVE THESE ORDERS, SOMETIMES IT GIVES ORDERS, SOMETIMES IT GIVES YOU VERY LITTLE TIME TO MOVE YOU VERY LITTLE TIME TO MOVE A WHOLE LOT OF PATIENTS, A WHOLE LOT OF PATIENTS, PATIENTS THAT ARE CRITICAL PATIENTS THAT ARE CRITICAL CONDITIONS, BABIES CONDITIONS, BABIES IN INCUBATORS, PEOPLE IN IN INCUBATORS, PEOPLE IN PEOPLE WHO ARE HOOKED UP PEOPLE WHO ARE HOOKED UP TO MACHINES. TO MACHINES. AND IT'S JUST BEEN UNREAL SINCE AND IT'S JUST BEEN UNREAL SINCE DAY ONE. DAY ONE. THIS THIS CLAIM THIS THIS CLAIM THAT INTERNATIONAL HUMANITARIAN THAT INTERNATIONAL HUMANITARIAN LAW IS BEING RESPECTED THROUGH LAW IS BEING RESPECTED THROUGH THESE WARNINGS EVACUATE. THESE WARNINGS EVACUATE. ON THE ON THE EXPERIENCE OF THE ON THE ON THE EXPERIENCE OF THE HUMANITARIAN COMMUNITY IT HAS HUMANITARIAN COMMUNITY IT HAS BEEN COMPLETELY INADEQUATE. BEEN COMPLETELY INADEQUATE. THE TIME FRAME THE FACT THE TIME FRAME THE FACT THAT YOU'RE EXPECTED THAT YOU'RE EXPECTED TO EVACUATE. TO EVACUATE. BUT WHERE YOU'RE TOLD TO GO BUT WHERE YOU'RE TOLD TO GO TO THE SOUTH IS BEING BOMBED. TO THE SOUTH IS BEING BOMBED. THERE IS NO PLACE IN GAZA THERE IS NO PLACE IN GAZA THAT IS. THAT IS. AND WHAT IS CLEARLY AND WHAT IS CLEARLY THE STRATEGY HERE IS DESPERATE THE STRATEGY HERE IS DESPERATE ,FORTUNATELY AFFECTING ,FORTUNATELY AFFECTING CIVILIANS. CIVILIANS. >> IT'S AFFECTING HOSPITALS, >> IT'S AFFECTING HOSPITALS, HOSPITALS, CLINICS HOSPITALS, CLINICS AND AMBULANCES. AND AMBULANCES. MEDICAL STAFF AND PATIENTS MEDICAL STAFF AND PATIENTS ARE BEING ROUTINELY ATTACKED. ARE BEING ROUTINELY ATTACKED. AND FOR US, THIS IS COMPLETELY AND FOR US, THIS IS COMPLETELY . . IT'S UNACCEPTABLE. IT'S UNACCEPTABLE. AND IT HAS TO STOP. AND IT HAS TO STOP. >> AND WE KNOW THAT THE IDF >> AND WE KNOW THAT THE IDF SAYS EVERY CIVILIAN DEATH IS A SAYS EVERY CIVILIAN DEATH IS A TRAGEDY AND THEY SAY TRAGEDY AND THEY SAY THEY'RE TAKING EXTENSIVE THEY'RE TAKING EXTENSIVE MEASURES TO AVOID THAT. MEASURES TO AVOID THAT. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM YOUR OPINION AND WHAT YOUR OPINION AND WHAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM YOU'RE HEARING FROM YOUR DOCTORS ON THE GROUND YOUR DOCTORS ON THE GROUND THERE, NOTHING HAS REALLY THERE, NOTHING HAS REALLY CHANGED HERE IN THIS PHASE CHANGED HERE IN THIS PHASE OF WAR. OF WAR. >> HAVE THEY RECEIVED ANY AID >> HAVE THEY RECEIVED ANY AID THAT YOU CAN SPEAK OF? THAT YOU CAN SPEAK OF? WELL, THE AID HAS BEEN WELL, THE AID HAS BEEN INSUFFICIENT, OF COURSE. INSUFFICIENT, OF COURSE. WE DON'T HAVE NEARLY ENOUGH WE DON'T HAVE NEARLY ENOUGH MEDICAL SUPPLIES. MEDICAL SUPPLIES. AND LET'S NOT FORGET THAT THIS AND LET'S NOT FORGET THAT THIS TOTAL SIEGE HAS STOPPED TOTAL SIEGE HAS STOPPED PEOPLE FROM RECEIVING FOOD PEOPLE FROM RECEIVING FOOD AND JUST THE BASIC NECESSITIES AND JUST THE BASIC NECESSITIES LIFE. LIFE. THE OTHER THING THAT THE THE OTHER THING THAT THE HUMANITARIAN COMMUNITY HAS BEEN HUMANITARIAN COMMUNITY HAS BEEN CALLING FOR SINCE THE BEGINNING CALLING FOR SINCE THE BEGINNING IS TO HAVE FUEL BROUGHT IN, IS TO HAVE FUEL BROUGHT IN, BECAUSE EVEN FOR AMBULANCES, BECAUSE EVEN FOR AMBULANCES, EVEN TO BE ABLE TO MOVE EVEN TO BE ABLE TO MOVE PATIENTS OUT OF AN AREA THAT IS PATIENTS OUT OF AN AREA THAT IS ORDERED TO BE EVACUATED, ORDERED TO BE EVACUATED, HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO THAT? THAT? BY CARRYING PEOPLE ON BY CARRYING PEOPLE ON STRETCHERS ACROSS THE RUBBLE STRETCHERS ACROSS THE RUBBLE WHILE THERE ARE BOMBS FALLING? WHILE THERE ARE BOMBS FALLING? I MEAN, THE WHOLE THE WHOLE I MEAN, THE WHOLE THE WHOLE WARNING SYSTEM HERE HAS NOT WARNING SYSTEM HERE HAS NOT AT ALL. AT ALL. IT IS NOT IN ACCORDANCE IT IS NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH HUMANITARIAN LAW BY, ANY WITH HUMANITARIAN LAW BY, ANY STANDARD. STANDARD. IN OUR LONG EXPERIENCE IN OUR LONG EXPERIENCE OF WORKING IN CONFLICT ZONES, OF WORKING IN CONFLICT ZONES, CAN I ASK ABOUT THE FUEL CAN I ASK ABOUT THE FUEL SPECIFICALLY? SPECIFICALLY? WE KNOW THAT WAS A MAJOR WE KNOW THAT WAS A MAJOR CONCERN FROM THE IDF TO SEND CONCERN FROM THE IDF TO SEND FUEL AND BECAUSE THEY WERE FUEL AND BECAUSE THEY WERE THAT HAMAS TERRORISTS WOULD THAT HAMAS TERRORISTS WOULD TAKE IT AND USE IT TO ROCKETS. TAKE IT AND USE IT TO ROCKETS. AND THE DOCTORS THAT YOU'VE AND THE DOCTORS THAT YOU'VE SPOKEN WITH ARE, THEY SAYING, SPOKEN WITH ARE, THEY SAYING, YES, THEY HAVE YES, THEY HAVE ACTUALLY RECEIVED FUEL ACTUALLY RECEIVED FUEL SPECIFICALLY. SPECIFICALLY. >> THERE'S BEEN VERY LITTLE >> THERE'S BEEN VERY LITTLE FUEL AVAILABLE. FUEL AVAILABLE. SO WE KNOW THAT EVEN DURING SO WE KNOW THAT EVEN DURING THE YEARS AND YEARS OF A THE YEARS AND YEARS OF A BLOCKADE, THERE WERE 500 TRUCKS BLOCKADE, THERE WERE 500 TRUCKS THAT WOULD BRING IN SUPPLIES, THAT WOULD BRING IN SUPPLIES, SUPPLIES INTO GAZA. SUPPLIES INTO GAZA. NOW, IT IS 10TH OF THAT, EVEN NOW, IT IS 10TH OF THAT, EVEN DESPITE ALL THE BEAUTIFUL PHOTO DESPITE ALL THE BEAUTIFUL PHOTO OPS OF CONVOYS OF TRUCKS OPS OF CONVOYS OF TRUCKS SNAKING THEIR WAY VERY SLOWLY SNAKING THEIR WAY VERY SLOWLY AFTER BEING INSPECTED BY THE AFTER BEING INSPECTED BY THE ISRAELI AUTHORITIES. ISRAELI AUTHORITIES. IT'S NOT NEARLY. IT'S NOT NEARLY. AND SO WHAT LITTLE FUEL HAS AND SO WHAT LITTLE FUEL HAS ARRIVED DID ALLOW SOME INITIAL ARRIVED DID ALLOW SOME INITIAL TRANSPORTATION OF MEDICAL TRANSPORTATION OF MEDICAL SUPPLIES, BECAUSE YOU CAN SUPPLIES, BECAUSE YOU CAN IMAGINE YOU'VE GOT YOU'VE GOT IMAGINE YOU'VE GOT YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE BOXES OF MEDICINES, ALL THESE BOXES OF MEDICINES, LIFESAVING MEDICINES LIFESAVING MEDICINES AND EQUIPMENT THAT NEEDS TO GET AND EQUIPMENT THAT NEEDS TO GET TO A SPECIFIC HOSPITAL TO A SPECIFIC HOSPITAL AND WITHOUT THE FUEL, THERE'S AND WITHOUT THE FUEL, THERE'S JUST NO WAY, NO WAY JUST NO WAY, NO WAY TO TRANSPORT IT. TO TRANSPORT IT. SO IT BEEN VERY LIMITED. SO IT BEEN VERY LIMITED. AND BETWEEN THE UNITED NATIONS AND BETWEEN THE UNITED NATIONS ,WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION ,WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION AND THE HUMANITARIAN AND THE HUMANITARIAN ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE A LOT ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE A LOT OF CREDIBILITY, THAT WANT TO DO OF CREDIBILITY, THAT WANT TO DO THINGS PROPERLY, THAT WANT THINGS PROPERLY, THAT WANT TO BE ABLE TO OFFER PEOPLE THE TO BE ABLE TO OFFER PEOPLE THE AID THAT THEY HAVE A RIGHT AID THAT THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO RECEIVE IN A CONFLICT ZONE TO RECEIVE IN A CONFLICT ZONE LIKE THIS. LIKE THIS. UNDER THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS, UNDER THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS, WE BE ABLE TO HAVE FUEL NOT WE BE ABLE TO HAVE FUEL NOT ONLY FOR TRANSPORTATION, FOR ONLY FOR TRANSPORTATION, FOR AMBULANCES, BUT ALSO JUST AMBULANCES, BUT ALSO JUST TO RUN THE ELECTRICITY IN THESE TO RUN THE ELECTRICITY IN THESE HOSPITALS, THAT WITH HOSPITALS, THAT WITH THE ELECTRICITY CUT OFF THE WAY THE ELECTRICITY CUT OFF THE WAY IT HAS BEEN, WE HAVE A LACK IT HAS BEEN, WE HAVE A LACK OF ACCESS TO CLEAN DRINKING OF ACCESS TO CLEAN DRINKING WATER THAT CREATING A WHOLE WATER THAT CREATING A WHOLE LEVEL OF CONDITIONS IN THE LEVEL OF CONDITIONS IN THE HOSPITALS, UNHYGIENIC HOSPITALS, UNHYGIENIC CONDITIONS. CONDITIONS. WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF PATIENTS WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF PATIENTS COMING WITH NECROSIS COMING WITH NECROSIS INFECTIONS. INFECTIONS. THEY ARE GOING TO DIE THIS THEY ARE GOING TO DIE THIS AND THERE'S NO WAY TO KEEP AND THERE'S NO WAY TO KEEP THE CONDITIONS, THE SANITATION THE CONDITIONS, THE SANITATION IN A HOSPITAL WITHOUT CLEAN IN A HOSPITAL WITHOUT CLEAN WATER. WATER. SO THE FUEL IS NECESSARY TO RUN SO THE FUEL IS NECESSARY TO RUN THE GENERATORS NOT ONLY FOR THE GENERATORS NOT ONLY FOR THE WATER FILTRATION, BUT ALSO THE WATER FILTRATION, BUT ALSO FOR THE MEDICAL EQUIPMENT FOR THE MEDICAL EQUIPMENT THAT KEEPS PEOPLE ALIVE. THAT KEEPS PEOPLE ALIVE. SO FUEL IS ABSOLUTELY SO FUEL IS ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL. ESSENTIAL. AND THIS HAS BEEN A CONSTANT AND THIS HAS BEEN A CONSTANT MESSAGE FROM THE HUMANITARIAN MESSAGE FROM THE HUMANITARIAN SINCE DAY ONE. SINCE DAY ONE. >> ALL RIGHT, ROBYN, THANK >> ALL RIGHT, ROBYN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. I WANT TO BRING OUR STORY I WANT TO BRING OUR STORY TO OUR PANEL HERE. TO OUR PANEL HERE. SO JOINING US NOW TODAY IS OUR SO JOINING US NOW TODAY IS OUR ABC NEWS CONTRIBUTOR AND SIRIUS ABC NEWS CONTRIBUTOR AND SIRIUS XM HOST MIKE MUSE, XM HOST MIKE MUSE, ABC NEWS SENIOR PENTAGON ABC NEWS SENIOR PENTAGON REPORTER LOUIE MARTINEZ. REPORTER LOUIE MARTINEZ. RETIRED GENERAL FOR THE U.S. RETIRED GENERAL FOR THE U.S. ARMY WILLIAM TROY AND ABC NEWS ARMY WILLIAM TROY AND ABC NEWS CONTRIBUTOR AND, OP ED CONTRIBUTOR AND, OP ED COLUMNIST FOR THE LOS ANGELES COLUMNIST FOR THE LOS ANGELES TIMES, L.Z. GRANDERSON. TIMES, L.Z. GRANDERSON. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING WITH THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING WITH US. US. SO, LOUIS, LET'S SO, LOUIS, LET'S START HERE WITH YOU. START HERE WITH YOU. ISRAEL'S PRIME MINISTER, ISRAEL'S PRIME MINISTER, BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, THAT RIGHT BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, THAT RIGHT NOW THIS FIGHT AGAINST HAMAS NOW THIS FIGHT AGAINST HAMAS IS A FIGHT FOR HUMAN SANITY. IS A FIGHT FOR HUMAN SANITY. AND THERE'S FEARS, AS YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S FEARS, AS YOU KNOW, OF THIS WAR WIDENING. OF THIS WAR WIDENING. AND NOW WE'RE HEARING FROM U.S. AND NOW WE'RE HEARING FROM U.S. OFFICIALS THE ENTIRE OFFICIALS THE ENTIRE WORLD NEEDS TO STEP UP TOGETHER WORLD NEEDS TO STEP UP TOGETHER AND WITH THIS EMERGING AND WITH THIS EMERGING CHALLENGE FROM THE HOUTHIS. CHALLENGE FROM THE HOUTHIS. HE CALLS THE BEHAVIOR ALARMING HE CALLS THE BEHAVIOR ALARMING . . >> SO RIGHT NOW, HOW IS >> SO RIGHT NOW, HOW IS THE U.S. RESPONDING? THE U.S. RESPONDING? YEAH, THAT'S SULLIVAN, YEAH, THAT'S SULLIVAN, THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER, THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER, GIVING US THAT TOUGH TALK GIVING US THAT TOUGH TALK ABOUT HOUTHIS. ABOUT HOUTHIS. NOW, THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IS NOW, THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO TAKE PLACE? ACTUALLY GOING TO TAKE PLACE? BECAUSE AS OF RIGHT, IT'S JUST BECAUSE AS OF RIGHT, IT'S JUST TOUGH TALK. TOUGH TALK. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED, THE IS REINING MENTIONED, THE IS REINING IN THE EXPANSION OF THIS IN THE EXPANSION OF THIS CONFLICT. CONFLICT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT JAKE AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT JAKE SULLIVAN TOLD REPORTERS AT THE SULLIVAN TOLD REPORTERS AT THE WHITE HOUSE TODAY WAS THAT THE WHITE HOUSE TODAY WAS THAT THE UNITED STATES HAS DONE A LOT. UNITED STATES HAS DONE A LOT. WE'VE SEEN THE MOVEMENT OF THE WE'VE SEEN THE MOVEMENT OF THE AIRCRAFT CARRIERS. AIRCRAFT CARRIERS. WE'VE SEEN MOVEMENT WE'VE SEEN MOVEMENT OF ADDITIONAL AIRCRAFT. OF ADDITIONAL AIRCRAFT. AND HE SAID THAT THAT HAS AND HE SAID THAT THAT HAS ACTUALLY A POSITIVE EFFECT. ACTUALLY A POSITIVE EFFECT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THEIR CONCERN ABOUT WHAT'S THEIR CONCERN ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE HOUTHIS. GOING ON WITH THE HOUTHIS. >> AND LIEUTENANT, WE KNOW >> AND LIEUTENANT, WE KNOW THAT SUPPLIES ARE NOT EASILY THAT SUPPLIES ARE NOT EASILY GETTING THROUGH THAT RAFAH GETTING THROUGH THAT RAFAH CROSSING. CROSSING. YOU JUST HEARD THERE. YOU JUST HEARD THERE. THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT DOCTORS THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT DOCTORS WITHOUT BORDERS SAYING WITHOUT BORDERS SAYING IT'S SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH. IT'S SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH. WHAT ARE GETTING? WHAT ARE GETTING? IS THERE ANOTHER WAY TO GET AID IS THERE ANOTHER WAY TO GET AID INTO THINKING ABOUT DROPPING IT INTO THINKING ABOUT DROPPING IT FROM THE AIR, BRINGING IT FROM THE AIR, BRINGING IT IN FROM THE WATER? IN FROM THE WATER? >> WHAT ELSE CAN BE DONE? >> WHAT ELSE CAN BE DONE? I THINK THERE'S WHEN YOU THINK I THINK THERE'S WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE AIR, THERE'S A COUPLE ABOUT THE AIR, THERE'S A COUPLE OF PROBLEMS. OF PROBLEMS. THE FIRST IS THE THREAT. THE FIRST IS THE THREAT. YOU CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT THERE YOU CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT THERE ARE A PLETHORA OF MANNED ARE A PLETHORA OF MANNED PORTABLE AIR DEFENSE SYSTEM PORTABLE AIR DEFENSE SYSTEM MISSILES THAT ARE IN THE AREA. MISSILES THAT ARE IN THE AREA. AND WHEN YOU WHEN YOU DROP AND WHEN YOU WHEN YOU DROP SUPPLIES, YOU HAVE TO FLY SUPPLIES, YOU HAVE TO FLY RELATIVELY SLOWLY AND AT RELATIVELY SLOWLY AND AT A LEVEL FLIGHT. A LEVEL FLIGHT. IT MAKES THEM QUITE A TARGET IT MAKES THEM QUITE A TARGET FOR THESE KINDS OF MISSILES FOR THESE KINDS OF MISSILES WHICH UNDOUBTEDLY ARE THERE WHICH UNDOUBTEDLY ARE THERE ON THE GROUND. ON THE GROUND. THE SECOND POINT IS THE THE SECOND POINT IS THE QUANTITIES, YOU KNOW, FUEL QUANTITIES, YOU KNOW, FUEL AND WATER ARE VERY HEAVY. AND WATER ARE VERY HEAVY. AND SO YOU JUST CAN'T GET MUCH AND SO YOU JUST CAN'T GET MUCH ON THE GROUND THAT WAY. ON THE GROUND THAT WAY. IT WOULD REALLY BE A DROP IT WOULD REALLY BE A DROP IN THE BUCKET. IN THE BUCKET. IT MAY BE MORE FEASIBLE FOR IT MAY BE MORE FEASIBLE FOR SOMETHING LIKE MEDICAL SOMETHING LIKE MEDICAL EQUIPMENT THAT'S THAT'S KIND EQUIPMENT THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF A HIGHER PAYOFF. OF A HIGHER PAYOFF. BUT AGAIN, THE THE PROBLEM BUT AGAIN, THE THE PROBLEM WITH THE THREAT TO AIRCRAFT WITH THE THREAT TO AIRCRAFT IS VERY REAL. IS VERY REAL. AND I THINK THAT'S WHY AND I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF AIRCRAFT YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF AIRCRAFT SUCH AS HELICOPTERS SUCH AS HELICOPTERS AND TRANSPORT AIRCRAFT FLYING AND TRANSPORT AIRCRAFT FLYING AROUND THAT BATTLEFIELD VERY AROUND THAT BATTLEFIELD VERY MUCH CERTAINLY. MUCH CERTAINLY. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, MIKE, WE'RE AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, MIKE, WE'RE HEARING THAT THE IDF HAS BEEN HEARING THAT THE IDF HAS BEEN DROPPING THESE LEAFLETS DROPPING THESE LEAFLETS AND THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS AND THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS ON THEM TELLING PEOPLE TO ON THEM TELLING PEOPLE TO EVACUATE TELLING THEM WHERE EVACUATE TELLING THEM WHERE TO GO. TO GO. BUT WE'RE HEARING FROM OUR FROM BUT WE'RE HEARING FROM OUR FROM OUR REPORTERS AND PRODUCERS OUR REPORTERS AND PRODUCERS ON THE GROUND THAT THESE ON THE GROUND THAT THESE LEAFLETS ARE CONFUSING AND THAT LEAFLETS ARE CONFUSING AND THAT PEOPLE DON'T OFTEN KNOW WHERE PEOPLE DON'T OFTEN KNOW WHERE TO GO, THAT THEY DON'T FEEL TO GO, THAT THEY DON'T FEEL SAFE ANYWHERE, AND THAT SAFE ANYWHERE, AND THAT SOME JUST PHYSICALLY CAN'T KEEP SOME JUST PHYSICALLY CAN'T KEEP MOVING. MOVING. SO HOW THEY SOLVE THAT THROUGH SO HOW THEY SOLVE THAT THROUGH YOUR QUESTION, I FOUND YOUR QUESTION, I FOUND YOUR INTERVIEW THAT YOU YOUR INTERVIEW THAT YOU WITH THE EXACT DIRECTOR OF WITH THE EXACT DIRECTOR OF DOCTORS THAT BORDER IS A VERY DOCTORS THAT BORDER IS A VERY ENLIGHTENING IN TERMS ENLIGHTENING IN TERMS OF GETTING GROUND AWARENESS OF GETTING GROUND AWARENESS ON WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING. ON WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING. YOU KNOW, THE IDF AND ISRAELI YOU KNOW, THE IDF AND ISRAELI GOVERNMENT HAS ASKED PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT HAS ASKED PEOPLE IN GAZA TO MOVE SOUTH. GAZA TO MOVE SOUTH. SO NOW THEY HAVE MOVED SOUTH SO NOW THEY HAVE MOVED SOUTH AND THEY'RE BEGINNING AND THEY'RE BEGINNING THEIR GROUND OFFENSE. THEIR GROUND OFFENSE. WHERE DO THESE PEOPLE GO NOW WHERE DO THESE PEOPLE GO NOW THAT THEY ARE SOUTH? THAT THEY ARE SOUTH? I THINK NOW THE ISRAELI I THINK NOW THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT, AS THEY BEGIN GOVERNMENT, AS THEY BEGIN TO BECOME MORE TACTICAL AND DO TO BECOME MORE TACTICAL AND DO MORE OF A GROUND GAME OFFENSE, MORE OF A GROUND GAME OFFENSE, THEY HAD TO ASK THEMSELVES THEY HAD TO ASK THEMSELVES AT WHAT COST ARE THEY REALLY AT WHAT COST ARE THEY REALLY TO DISAPPEAR. TO DISAPPEAR. FORTUNATELY, IMPACT PALESTINIAN FORTUNATELY, IMPACT PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS AND THEIR AIM IS TO CIVILIANS AND THEIR AIM IS TO GET HAMAS AND TO ERADICATE GET HAMAS AND TO ERADICATE HAMAS. HAMAS. WE ARE ENTERING THAT SPACE NOW WE ARE ENTERING THAT SPACE NOW WHERE THAT INTERSECTIONALITY WHERE THAT INTERSECTIONALITY IS BECOMING A VERY DIRE IS BECOMING A VERY DIRE CONSEQUENCES FOR THESE CONSEQUENCES FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS TO BE ABLE INDIVIDUALS TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THE NECESSITIES TO RECEIVE THE NECESSITIES FUEL, WATER, FOOD AND JUST FUEL, WATER, FOOD AND JUST BASICS OF SHELTER. BASICS OF SHELTER. WHEN EXACTLY VICTOR TALKED WHEN EXACTLY VICTOR TALKED ABOUT BRINGING A STRETCHER OVER ABOUT BRINGING A STRETCHER OVER RUBBLE. RUBBLE. THAT KIND OF MADE ME SIT BACK A THAT KIND OF MADE ME SIT BACK A LITTLE BIT AND TALK. LITTLE BIT AND TALK. THAT REALLY HIGHLIGHTS THAT REALLY HIGHLIGHTS THE HUMANITARIAN CRISIS WE WERE THE HUMANITARIAN CRISIS WE WERE IN BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST FOR IN BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST FOR THEM TO GO. THEM TO GO. >> RIGHT. >> RIGHT. THE REALITY OF THE CHALLENGES THE REALITY OF THE CHALLENGES ARE SO UNBELIEVABLY DAUNTING. ARE SO UNBELIEVABLY DAUNTING. SO, L.Z. WE KNOW THAT THE SO, L.Z. WE KNOW THAT THE CHILDREN OF THIS WAR HAVE PAID CHILDREN OF THIS WAR HAVE PAID A HUGE PRICE. A HUGE PRICE. >> AND TO YOUR POINT AND A LOT >> AND TO YOUR POINT AND A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THIS QUITE OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THIS QUITE OFTEN IN GAZA, YOU KNOW, HAMAS OFTEN IN GAZA, YOU KNOW, HAMAS IS THERE RUNNING GAZA AND. IS THERE RUNNING GAZA AND. THEY WERE ELECTED TO THAT THEY WERE ELECTED TO THAT POSITION TO HELP THE PEOPLE POSITION TO HELP THE PEOPLE OF GAZA. OF GAZA. >> AND PEOPLE WANT TO PLACE >> AND PEOPLE WANT TO PLACE THE BLAME SOMETIMES ON THOSE THE BLAME SOMETIMES ON THOSE VOTES. VOTES. BUT HOW DO YOU SQUARE THAT WHEN BUT HOW DO YOU SQUARE THAT WHEN YOU'RE SEEING THE CHILDREN YOU'RE SEEING THE CHILDREN SUFFERING MOST? SUFFERING MOST? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> ABSOLUTELY. AND THIS IS WHY THE NARRATIVE AND THIS IS WHY THE NARRATIVE OF THIS WAR BECOMES MORE AND OF THIS WAR BECOMES MORE AND MORE IMPORTANT. MORE IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW TO MY POINT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW TO MY POINT, YOU KNOW, THE RESOURCES ARE DEFINITELY THE RESOURCES ARE DEFINITELY THE DOMINANT OF THE THE DOMINANT OF THE HUMANITARIAN CRISIS THAT WE HUMANITARIAN CRISIS THAT WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED IN ON. NEED TO BE FOCUSED IN ON. BUT RIGHT NOW, THAT'S BUT RIGHT NOW, THAT'S THE PRESENT. THE PRESENT. WE NEED TO BE ASKING OURSELVES WE NEED TO BE ASKING OURSELVES WHAT, ARE THESE MONITORING WHAT, ARE THESE MONITORING DEVICES GOING FORWARD? DEVICES GOING FORWARD? BECAUSE THE SOONER WE GET TO BECAUSE THE SOONER WE GET TO THE PLACE IN WHICH THE FIGHTING THE PLACE IN WHICH THE FIGHTING DOES START, WE HAVE TO ASK DOES START, WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES WHAT KIND OF SOCIETY OURSELVES WHAT KIND OF SOCIETY ARE WE LEAVING BEHIND AND WHAT ARE WE LEAVING BEHIND AND WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE DOING, WHAT THE EXACTLY ARE WE DOING, WHAT THE CEASE FIRE IS TOWARD TO CEASE FIRE IS TOWARD TO INFRASTRUCTURE TO, BE PREPARED INFRASTRUCTURE TO, BE PREPARED FOR THIS SOCIETY THAT WE'RE FOR THIS SOCIETY THAT WE'RE LEAVING BEHIND. LEAVING BEHIND. HE MADE NUMEROUS MISTAKES HE MADE NUMEROUS MISTAKES IN THE 19 GOING IN AFGHANISTAN, IN THE 19 GOING IN AFGHANISTAN, AND HE CAME BACK THREE DECADES AND HE CAME BACK THREE DECADES LATER TO HIT US IN THE LATER TO HIT US IN THE WITH 911. WITH 911. AND I'M AFRAID WE'RE HEADED AND I'M AFRAID WE'RE HEADED TOWARDS THE SAME THING, NOT TOWARDS THE SAME THING, NOT JUST IN TERMS OF BEING JUST IN TERMS OF BEING SUPPORTIVE AND ALLIES SUPPORTIVE AND ALLIES OF ISRAEL, BUT ALSO OF ISRAEL, BUT ALSO UNITED STATES IN TERMS OF OUR UNITED STATES IN TERMS OF OUR FOREIGN POLICY AND HOW REVEALED FOREIGN POLICY AND HOW REVEALED BY OTHER MUSLIM NATIONS AROUND BY OTHER MUSLIM NATIONS AROUND THE WORLD. THE WORLD. I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HOW I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THE CEASEFIRE IS GOING THE CEASEFIRE IS GOING TO IMPACT GENERATIONS. TO IMPACT GENERATIONS. >> ALL RIGHT, MIKE, L.T., >> ALL RIGHT, MIKE, L.T., GENERAL TROY

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