'I kept it secret': Matt Gutman details struggle with panic attacks in new book

ABC News’ Linsey Davis spoke to ABC News chief national correspondent Matt Gutman about his new book "No time to Panic," a memoir about his journey to treat decades of suffering from panic attacks.
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. DONALD TRUMP NOW ADVOCATES WHAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE WHAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE LARGEST TAX INCREASES LARGEST TAX INCREASES IN HISTORY A 10% TARIFF ON ALL IN HISTORY A 10% TARIFF ON ALL IMPORTS INTO THE COUNTRY. IMPORTS INTO THE COUNTRY. AND WHERE WE STOOD WITHOUT AND WHERE WE STOOD WITHOUT APOLOGY FOR THE RIGHT TO LIFE, APOLOGY FOR THE RIGHT TO LIFE, DONALD TRUMP NOW HAS TAKEN DONALD TRUMP NOW HAS TAKEN TO CRITICIZING STATES THAT TO CRITICIZING STATES THAT ADVANCE PROTECTIONS FOR ADVANCE PROTECTIONS FOR THE UNBORN, THE POINT AT WHICH THE UNBORN, THE POINT AT WHICH AN UNBORN CHILD CAN EXPERIENCE AN UNBORN CHILD CAN EXPERIENCE PAIN. PAIN. SO I THINK THE DONALD SO I THINK THE DONALD TRUMP TODAY IS DIFFERENT THAN TRUMP TODAY IS DIFFERENT THAN THE DONALD OF 2016. THE DONALD OF 2016. AND YOU BET, I THINK HE OUGHT AND YOU BET, I THINK HE OUGHT TO BE ON THAT DEBATE STAGE. TO BE ON THAT DEBATE STAGE. HE OUGHT TO BE ENGAGING ALL OF HE OUGHT TO BE ENGAGING ALL OF US THAT ARE VYING FOR THIS US THAT ARE VYING FOR THIS NOMINATION. NOMINATION. HE OUGHT TO BE SHARING HE OUGHT TO BE SHARING HIS VISION. HIS VISION. BUT FOR MY PART, I'M GOING BUT FOR MY PART, I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO SHARE VISION TO CONTINUE TO SHARE VISION OF OF OF A TESTED, PROVEN OF OF OF A TESTED, PROVEN CONSERVATIVE THAT KNOWS THOSE CONSERVATIVE THAT KNOWS THOSE SAME IDEAS, THOSE IDEAS WE SAME IDEAS, THOSE IDEAS WE GOVERNED ON, THOSE IDEAS GOVERNED ON, THOSE IDEAS THAT RONALD REAGAN BROUGHT THAT RONALD REAGAN BROUGHT FORWARD AND BROUGHT AMERICA IN FORWARD AND BROUGHT AMERICA IN THE 1980S. THE 1980S. THEY'RE THE IDEAS THAT ARE THEY'RE THE IDEAS THAT ARE BRINGING AMERICA BACK TODAY. BRINGING AMERICA BACK TODAY. >> WE JUST LEARNED TODAY A NEW >> WE JUST LEARNED TODAY A NEW YORK JUDGE HAS RULED FORMER YORK JUDGE HAS RULED FORMER PRESIDENT COMMITTED SYSTEMIC PRESIDENT COMMITTED SYSTEMIC FRAUD, LYING FOR YEARS FRAUD, LYING FOR YEARS ABOUT HIS NET WORTH ABOUT HIS NET WORTH BY INFLATING THE VALUE OF HIS BY INFLATING THE VALUE OF HIS REAL ESTATE PORTFOLIO. REAL ESTATE PORTFOLIO. >> IS THIS A FAIR ISSUE YOU TO >> IS THIS A FAIR ISSUE YOU TO BRING UP ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL? BRING UP ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL? >> WELL, I'M NOT FAMILIAR >> WELL, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE JUDGE'S RULING, BUT I WITH THE JUDGE'S RULING, BUT I THINK I THINK JUDGMENTS THINK I THINK JUDGMENTS ABOUT ABOUT THE PRESIDENT, ABOUT ABOUT THE PRESIDENT, YOU KNOW, CAN BE MADE BY ANY YOU KNOW, CAN BE MADE BY ANY AMERICAN. AMERICAN. BUT, YOU KNOW, AT THE END BUT, YOU KNOW, AT THE END THE DAY, I HAVE TO TELL YOU, THE DAY, I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I JUST DON'T HEAR VERY MUCH I JUST DON'T HEAR VERY MUCH ABOUT ANY OF THE LEGAL ABOUT ANY OF THE LEGAL CONTROVERSY SWIRLING AROUND CONTROVERSY SWIRLING AROUND THE PRESIDENT AND I DO HEAR THE PRESIDENT AND I DO HEAR PEOPLE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PEOPLE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE FUTURE, THIS COUNTRY, FUTURE, THIS COUNTRY, ABOUT ABOUT INFLATION, ABOUT ABOUT INFLATION, ABOUT JOE BIDEN'S WAR ON, ABOUT JOE BIDEN'S WAR ON, ABOUT A CRISIS AT THE BORDER ABOUT A CRISIS AT THE BORDER THAT'S SEEN MORE THAN 6 MILLION THAT'S SEEN MORE THAN 6 MILLION PEOPLE COME INTO THIS COUNTRY PEOPLE COME INTO THIS COUNTRY IN THE LAST TWO AND A HALF IN THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS. YEARS. AND NOW EVEN YOU HAVE PLACES, AND NOW EVEN YOU HAVE PLACES, YOU HAVE LIKE NEW YORK CITY, YOU HAVE LIKE NEW YORK CITY, THAT ARE WAKING UP TO THE THAT ARE WAKING UP TO THE CRISIS AT OUR. CRISIS AT OUR. SO, YOU KNOW, LOOK, ANYBODY SO, YOU KNOW, LOOK, ANYBODY ON THAT STAGE CAN BRING UP ANY ON THAT STAGE CAN BRING UP ANY ISSUES WANT. ISSUES WANT. I'M GOING TO BE FOCUSED I'M GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON THE ISSUES THE AMERICAN ON THE ISSUES THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE FOCUSED ON AND PEOPLE ARE FOCUSED ON AND THE FACT THAT I'M COMMITTED THE FACT THAT I'M COMMITTED TO BRINGING THOSE CONSERVATIVE TO BRINGING THOSE CONSERVATIVE SOLUTIONS THAT HAVE DEFINED SOLUTIONS THAT HAVE DEFINED OUR PARTY OVER THE LAST OUR PARTY OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS TO BEAR ON IT, WHILE 50 YEARS TO BEAR ON IT, WHILE DONALD TRUMP AND OTHERS ARE ARE DONALD TRUMP AND OTHERS ARE ARE FOLLOWING A SIREN SONG FOLLOWING A SIREN SONG OF POPULISM AND WANT TO LEAD OF POPULISM AND WANT TO LEAD OUR PARTY TO A WHOLE DIFFERENT OUR PARTY TO A WHOLE DIFFERENT RANGE OF POLICIES THAT, I THINK RANGE OF POLICIES THAT, I THINK I THINK WILL ILL SERVE I THINK WILL ILL SERVE THE NATION AS WE TRY AND FIND THE NATION AS WE TRY AND FIND OUR WAY OUT OF THE THE FAILURES OUR WAY OUT OF THE THE FAILURES OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. >> ONE OF THOSE ISSUES, >> ONE OF THOSE ISSUES, OBVIOUSLY, IS, YOU KNOW, FORMER OBVIOUSLY, IS, YOU KNOW, FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS CALLED PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS CALLED ABORTION BANS AT SIX WEEKS LIKE ABORTION BANS AT SIX WEEKS LIKE THE ONE IN FLORIDA, QUOTE, THE ONE IN FLORIDA, QUOTE, TERRIBLE MISTAKE. TERRIBLE MISTAKE. DO YOU THINK FORMER DO YOU THINK FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP STILL PRESIDENT TRUMP STILL REPRESENTS THE GOP BASE? REPRESENTS THE GOP BASE? HIS VALUES ON ABORTION? HIS VALUES ON ABORTION? >> WELL, IT'S -- IT'S PART >> WELL, IT'S -- IT'S PART OF WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, OF WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, LINSEY, IS, YOU KNOW, LINSEY, IS, YOU KNOW, I'M PRO-LIFE. I'M PRO-LIFE. DON'T APOLOGIZE FOR IT. DON'T APOLOGIZE FOR IT. I COULDN'T BE MORE PROUD I COULDN'T BE MORE PROUD TO HAVE PLAYED A ROLE. TO HAVE PLAYED A ROLE. THE ADMINISTRATION THE ADMINISTRATION THAT APPOINTED THREE OF THAT APPOINTED THREE OF THE JUSTICES THAT SENT VERSUS THE JUSTICES THAT SENT VERSUS WADE TO THE ASH HEAP OF HISTORY WADE TO THE ASH HEAP OF HISTORY AND RETURN THE QUESTION AND RETURN THE QUESTION OF ABORTION TO THE STATES AND OF ABORTION TO THE STATES AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. BUT -- BUT FOR DONALD TRUMP TO BUT -- BUT FOR DONALD TRUMP TO TO DESCRIBE A POSITIVE PRO-LIFE TO DESCRIBE A POSITIVE PRO-LIFE BILL, A HEARTBEAT BILL THAT NOT BILL, A HEARTBEAT BILL THAT NOT ONLY PASSED IN FLORIDA, ONLY PASSED IN FLORIDA, IN GEORGIA AND IN OHIO, IN GEORGIA AND IN OHIO, IN IOWA, TO DESCRIBE THAT AS IN IOWA, TO DESCRIBE THAT AS A TERRIBLE MISTAKE, I THINK A TERRIBLE MISTAKE, I THINK IS A REAL BETRAYAL AND A IS A REAL BETRAYAL AND A DISSERVICE TO MILLIONS DISSERVICE TO MILLIONS OF PRO-LIFE AMERICANS WHO HAVE OF PRO-LIFE AMERICANS WHO HAVE LONG TO ADVANCE THE SANCTITY LONG TO ADVANCE THE SANCTITY LIFE. LIFE. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW IF I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW IF I'M PRESIDENT OF THE I'M PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, THEY'RE GOING UNITED STATES, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A CHAMPION FOR TO HAVE A CHAMPION FOR THE RIGHT TO LIFE IN THE IN THE THE RIGHT TO LIFE IN THE IN THE OVAL OFFICE. OVAL OFFICE. AND I'LL ALWAYS HONOR ALL OF AND I'LL ALWAYS HONOR ALL OF THOSE THAT ARE PROTECTING THOSE THAT ARE PROTECTING PROTECTING UNBORN IN OUR PROTECTING UNBORN IN OUR NATION. NATION. >> TODAY, PRESIDENT BIDEN, >> TODAY, PRESIDENT BIDEN, AS YOU KNOW, TOOK AS YOU KNOW, TOOK THE UNPRECEDENTED STEP THE UNPRECEDENTED STEP OF JOINING A UNION PICKET LINE. OF JOINING A UNION PICKET LINE. DO YOU THINK THAT THAT'S DO YOU THINK THAT THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR A PRESIDENT APPROPRIATE FOR A PRESIDENT TO SO? TO SO? >> WELL, LOOK, IT'S -- IT'S >> WELL, LOOK, IT'S -- IT'S FREE COUNTRY. FREE COUNTRY. JOE BIDEN CAN GO TO THE PICKET JOE BIDEN CAN GO TO THE PICKET LINE AND GRAB A BULLHORN AND LINE AND GRAB A BULLHORN AND TALK ABOUT HIS SUPPORT FOR, TALK ABOUT HIS SUPPORT FOR, MEMBERS OF THE UAW. MEMBERS OF THE UAW. BUT I GOT TO TELL YOU, BUT I GOT TO TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, I COME FROM YOU KNOW, I COME FROM THE SECOND LADY MANUFACTURE THE SECOND LADY MANUFACTURE SWING STATE IN THE COUNTRY. SWING STATE IN THE COUNTRY. I KNOW AN AWFUL LOT ABOUT THE I KNOW AN AWFUL LOT ABOUT THE AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESS. AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESS. WE'RE PROUD OF IT. WE'RE PROUD OF IT. IN THE STATE OF INDIANA, IN THE STATE OF INDIANA, LINSEY AND AND LOOK, I THINK LINSEY AND AND LOOK, I THINK WHAT'S PUTTING THOSE PEOPLE ON WHAT'S PUTTING THOSE PEOPLE ON ON THE PICKET LINE IS NOT ON THE PICKET LINE IS NOT THE CLASS WARFARE POLITICS THE CLASS WARFARE POLITICS YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT. YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT. I THINK IT'S A BIDEN-NOMICS HAS I THINK IT'S A BIDEN-NOMICS HAS FAILED. FAILED. WAGES ARE NOT KEEPING WAGES ARE NOT KEEPING WITH INFLATION AND AUTOWORKERS WITH INFLATION AND AUTOWORKERS KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE. KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE. ALL AMERICAN WORKERS, FRANKLY. ALL AMERICAN WORKERS, FRANKLY. THEY ALSO KNOW THAT THOSE THEY ALSO KNOW THAT THOSE ELECTRIC VEHICLE MANDATES ELECTRIC VEHICLE MANDATES SUBSIDIES FOR THE BIDEN SUBSIDIES FOR THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IN THE GREEN NEW ADMINISTRATION IN THE GREEN NEW DEAL. DEAL. REALLY TO CRUSH THE ENTIRE REALLY TO CRUSH THE ENTIRE GASOLINE POWER, AUTOMOTIVE GASOLINE POWER, AUTOMOTIVE IN THIS COUNTRY. IN THIS COUNTRY. AND SO MY HOPE WHAT I HEARD AND SO MY HOPE WHAT I HEARD HE DIDN'T STICK AROUND VERY HE DIDN'T STICK AROUND VERY LONG ON THE PICKET LINE. LONG ON THE PICKET LINE. AND MAYBE THERE WAS A REASON AND MAYBE THERE WAS A REASON THAT, YOU KNOW, I FIGURED IF THAT, YOU KNOW, I FIGURED IF HE STARTED TALKING TO SOME HE STARTED TALKING TO SOME OF THOSE UAW MEMBERS, OF THOSE UAW MEMBERS, THEY MIGHT HAVE HIM ASIDE WHEN THEY MIGHT HAVE HIM ASIDE WHEN THE CAMERAS WEREN'T ROLLING THE CAMERAS WEREN'T ROLLING AND SAYING, HEY, CAN WE CAN WE AND SAYING, HEY, CAN WE CAN WE COME OFF THE ACCELERATOR ON ON COME OFF THE ACCELERATOR ON ON THIS AGGRESSIVE VEHICLE AGENDA? THIS AGGRESSIVE VEHICLE AGENDA? THAT'S THAT'S IT'S GOOD FOR THAT'S THAT'S IT'S GOOD FOR BEIJING, BUT IT'S BAD FOR BEIJING, BUT IT'S BAD FOR DETROIT. DETROIT. AND I REALLY DO BELIEVE AND I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT'S THAT THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT'S DRIVING THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT'S DRIVING THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT'S DRIVING THAT STRIKE. DRIVING THAT STRIKE. AND IF I'M PRESIDENT, WE'RE AND IF I'M PRESIDENT, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO GO GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO AN ALL OF THE ABOVE BACK TO AN ALL OF THE ABOVE ENERGY STRATEGY. ENERGY STRATEGY. WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO BE SOURCE NEUTRAL ON ENERGY. TO BE SOURCE NEUTRAL ON ENERGY. WE'RE GOING TO GET RID OF THIS WE'RE GOING TO GET RID OF THIS GREEN NEW DEAL AND THERE'S GREEN NEW DEAL AND THERE'S SUBSIDIES AND MANDATES. SUBSIDIES AND MANDATES. AND I'VE GOT A PLAN TO TACKLE AND I'VE GOT A PLAN TO TACKLE INFLATION THAT'LL GET WAGES INFLATION THAT'LL GET WAGES BACK, BACK UP AND ABOVE BACK, BACK UP AND ABOVE INFLATION IN A SHORT PERIOD INFLATION IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. OF TIME. >> JUST HAVE ABOUT A MINUTE >> JUST HAVE ABOUT A MINUTE LEFT. LEFT. MR. VICE PRESIDENT, AS YOU MR. VICE PRESIDENT, AS YOU KNOW, IN HER NEW BOOK AND NOW KNOW, IN HER NEW BOOK AND NOW FORMER WHITE HOUSE AIDE CASSIDY FORMER WHITE HOUSE AIDE CASSIDY HUTCHINSON CLAIMS FORMER HUTCHINSON CLAIMS FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP REPEATED PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP REPEATED THE HANG PENCE CHANT ALONG THE HANG PENCE CHANT ALONG WITH RIOTERS AS HE WAS WITH RIOTERS AS HE WAS WATCHING THE JANUARY 6 WATCHING THE JANUARY 6 CAPITOL INSURRECTION. CAPITOL INSURRECTION. >> WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO THAT >> WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO THAT ? ? >> WELL, I WASN'T THERE. >> WELL, I WASN'T THERE. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WAS I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WAS HAPPENING AT THE WING. HAPPENING AT THE WING. I WAS I STAYED AT MY POST I WAS I STAYED AT MY POST THAT DAY. THAT DAY. YOU KNOW, I REALLY DO BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, I REALLY DO BELIEVE, BY GOD'S GRACE, I DID MY DUTY BY GOD'S GRACE, I DID MY DUTY THAT AND KEPT MY OATH TO THE THAT AND KEPT MY OATH TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. UNITED STATES. AND I MUST TELL YOU THAT AND I MUST TELL YOU THAT WHATEVER HAPPENED DOWN AT THE WHATEVER HAPPENED DOWN AT THE WHITE HOUSE, I KNOW THAT WHAT WHITE HOUSE, I KNOW THAT WHAT WE DID THAT DAY, WHAT LAW WE DID THAT DAY, WHAT LAW ENFORCEMENT DID QUELLING ENFORCEMENT DID QUELLING THAT RIOT AND MAKING IT THAT RIOT AND MAKING IT POSSIBLE FOR TO RECONVENE POSSIBLE FOR TO RECONVENE THE CONGRESS THE VERY SAME DAY THE CONGRESS THE VERY SAME DAY AND COMPLETE OUR WORK UNDER AND COMPLETE OUR WORK UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. UNITED STATES. IT TOOK A DAY OF TRAGEDY IT TOOK A DAY OF TRAGEDY AND MADE IT A TRIUMPH AND MADE IT A TRIUMPH OF FREEDOM. OF FREEDOM. >> AND I'LL NEVER SEE IT ANY >> AND I'LL NEVER SEE IT ANY OTHER WAY. OTHER WAY. IF I CAN JUST GET A YES OR NO IF I CAN JUST GET A YES OR NO IN A LIMITED TIME THAT WE HAVE IN A LIMITED TIME THAT WE HAVE YES OR NO TO THE GOVERNMENT, DO YES OR NO TO THE GOVERNMENT, DO YOU THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING YOU THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S AVOIDABLE? THAT'S AVOIDABLE? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, WE WENT >> WELL, YOU KNOW, WE WENT THROUGH THE LONGEST GOVERNMENT THROUGH THE LONGEST GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN IN HISTORY WHEN WHEN SHUTDOWN IN HISTORY WHEN WHEN WE WERE IN OFFICE, AND I WAS WE WERE IN OFFICE, AND I WAS THE LEAD NEGOTIATOR FOR THE LEAD NEGOTIATOR FOR ADMINISTRATION. ADMINISTRATION. LOOK, SPENDING IS OUT LOOK, SPENDING IS OUT OF CONTROL IN WASHINGTON. OF CONTROL IN WASHINGTON. I COMMEND HOUSE REPUBLICANS FOR I COMMEND HOUSE REPUBLICANS FOR DIGGING IN. DIGGING IN. BUT THINK AT THE END OF THE BUT THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE DAY, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE LEADERSHIP IN THE WHITE LEADERSHIP IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND, IN THE CONGRESS HOUSE AND, IN THE CONGRESS THAT DEALS WITH THE REAL THAT DEALS WITH THE REAL DRIVERS OF OUR NATIONAL DEBT. DRIVERS OF OUR NATIONAL DEBT. WITH $33 TRILLION IN NATIONAL WITH $33 TRILLION IN NATIONAL DEBT, ENTITLEMENTS ARE DRIVING DEBT, ENTITLEMENTS ARE DRIVING . . IF I'M PRESIDENT OF THE IF I'M PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, WELL, WE'LL FIND UNITED STATES, WELL, WE'LL FIND A WAY TO FUND THE AND FIND A WAY TO FUND THE AND FIND SAVINGS ON THE MARGINS. SAVINGS ON THE MARGINS. BUT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE BUT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE

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